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Title: Vartox
Post by: Glammazon on May 23, 2007, 06:30:18 PM
Why don't we see some of the stories where Superman and Vartox, the hero of the planet Valeron, work together?


Title: Re: Vartox
Post by: Permanus on May 24, 2007, 02:09:37 AM
Kurt Busiek has stated, in the Comic Bloc forums, that Vartox will appear in his second story arc. I do hope it wasn't just a tongue-in-cheek statement!

http://www.comicbloc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=669642&postcount=1387 (http://www.comicbloc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=669642&postcount=1387)


Title: Re: Vartox
Post by: TELLE on May 24, 2007, 02:30:15 AM
I love Vartox.

One of my fave Bronze Age characters, not least for the bizarre costume --only later did I realize he was based on Connery's Zardoz character.

Other great Bronze Agers: Terra Man and Capt. Strong!



Title: Re: Vartox
Post by: Uncle Mxy on May 26, 2007, 11:42:01 AM
Maybe Vartox will give the CEO of Lexcorp a little pick-me-up.



Title: Re: Vartox
Post by: LadyStyx on May 28, 2007, 02:43:13 PM
Well seeing how in the trend of prolongate the CURRENT story arc is Busiek now is I say:

2008 WILL BE VARTOX'S YEAR


Title: Re: Vartox
Post by: kirby911 on May 30, 2007, 01:27:19 PM
no of them might get lazy and superman will have to lookafter both planets.


Title: Re: Vartox
Post by: crispy snax on May 31, 2007, 06:01:46 AM
Varox Vs. Hyperman? the bronze age clashes with the silver age?

could be potential.... i think


Title: Re: Vartox
Post by: carmine on May 31, 2007, 09:20:59 PM
pants or no pants?


Title: Re: Vartox
Post by: JulianPerez on June 02, 2007, 04:21:58 AM
I'd love to see Vartox again in some form. He was a part of the exciting space opera vibe that Superman had in the 1970s and 1980s. He had cool and somewhat original powers (Superman-level, yet not a derivation of the flight/tank package that Superman clones like Captain Marvel use), and Vartox was someone slightly more experienced that Superman could look up to and seriously speak to.

Vartox is a sympathetic character; he's endured things that have had the effect of breaking his sanity. Combine someone like Kurt Busiek, who has a wonderful gift for characterization and sympathy, and you have the potential for something not only exciting, but also emotional and tragic.

In some ways, Vartox is an alternate version of Superman. If Superman lost Earth and Lois Lane...who's to say that he WOULDN'T react the way Vartox did?

It's great to give Superman an exclusive supporting cast member that isn't an annoying cub reporter; someone that is a legitimate hero and adventure character in their own right.

Though holy crap, that costume's got to go. He looks like Mr. Slave from SOUTH PARK.

There's a fine line between a BAD costume (e.g. Golden Age Green Lantern, who looks like he got dressed in the dark, and the Curt Swan Legion of Super-Heroes...apparently color-blindness is endemic in the 30th Century) and an INSANELY BAD costume, and Vartox is the latter. He looks like Mr. Slave from SOUTH PARK.

But it's no big thing. Just give Vartox some stylin' threads that play up his dignity - maybe based on certain other Sean Connery characters - and Vartox is good to go.

Quote from: TELLE
Other great Bronze Agers: Terra Man and Capt. Strong!

Terra-Man's had some great stories, to be sure (especially under Cary Bates), but...Captain Strong? NO. The only thing I can even conceive as being worse is Superman teaming up with the Super Mario Brothers.

Then again, even Captain Strong has entertainment value, though it's the same as the Superbowl Shuffle or the two Coreys in LISCENSE TO DRIVE: just by existing there's a cheesy value there.

I wonder...Is it possible to so internalize irony that it is no longer possible to distinguish between an honestly cool idea and ironic appreciation?


Title: Re: Vartox
Post by: Permanus on June 02, 2007, 04:32:29 AM
But it's no big thing. Just give Vartox some stylin' threads that play up his dignity - maybe based on certain other Sean Connery characters - and Vartox is good to go.

You... You mean a tuxedo?


Title: Re: Vartox
Post by: crispy snax on June 02, 2007, 04:39:58 AM
hmmm juilan, i notice that you mentioned the fact that he "looks like mr slave" twice in your last post...

and i say no pants, just to make the auidence real uncomfortable, why not? we would be "breaking new ground" in comic books literature... we could even have batman call up superman to discuss there "relationship"


Title: Re: Vartox
Post by: Just a fan on June 02, 2007, 09:30:47 AM
 JulianPerez  wrote "The only thing I can even conceive as being worse is Superman teaming up with the Super Mario Brothers." 

Actually the worst would be Superman and Spongebob Squarepants.


Title: Re: Vartox
Post by: JulianPerez on June 03, 2007, 06:07:11 AM
Quote from: Permanus
You... You mean a tuxedo?

I was thinking the Derby hat-vest combo he wore in DARBY O'GILL AND THE LITTLE PEOPLE.

That movie is a weird window into an alternate universe. Sean Connery is here trying to be a less dweeby version of Dick van Dyke, crooning dopey love tunes like "My Pretty Irish Girl," but there's a "dirty sex appeal" quality about Sean that doesn't go away. It's like watching a porn star play Snow White.


Title: Re: Vartox
Post by: Permanus on June 03, 2007, 06:33:27 AM
You just said that because you knew I'd have to google it, didn't you? Still, a bold new departure, and a foin look fer Vartox, a foin look t'be sure. Still, considering Connery's activism for the Scottish National Party, perhaps a kilt and tam-o'-shanter? Actually, you could make that into quite a good costume in a Braveheart sort of way.


Title: Re: Vartox
Post by: Uncle Mxy on June 07, 2007, 11:02:08 PM
You... You mean a tuxedo?
You want The Gentleman from Astro City.