Gangbuster writes:Not necessarily, since it never happened anyway (time reversal at the end.)
Thus, Spacey Luthor was able to return because the crystals were never destroyed or expended by Jor-El in the first place.
Yes, and Jor-El didn't "die"...making that whole "moving" scene between him and Superman pointless and meaningless.
Except...if Jor-El didn't die, then how did Superman get the power to reverse time? But if he does reverse time, then how could Jor-El have died? What a mess.
Another question is just how far back does Superman turn time? Obviously back to before the villains escaped, but logically also before the missile drifted off into space, or else we'd just have to relive the whole mess over again. So does he go back to before the missile was even fired, and simply catch Luthor before he pushes the button? Apparently he's undoing the last movie as well as the second one.
And if he did indeed stop the missile, then everything after that would have happened differently. So Luthor never went to the Fortress at all. Which makes his trip there in Superman Returns his first trip, not his second...which actually helps that film a lot.
On the other hand, if the sex scene with Lois is undone, then the kid can't be Superman's.
Uncle Mxy asks:Why doesn't Superman timespin the earth a few years back and avoid that pesky business with him abandoning the earth so Lois could have his kid? He could just keep on doing things until he does it right.
Well, I'd imagine that would create some moral issues even for the morally challenged movie Superman. It's one thing to take back a few minutes as he does in the first film. Here he's taking back days and maybe weeks. To fix the bit with Jason, he'd have to undo a whopping five years. Over and above the question of whether he even COULD do it (how long would he have to fly at that speed?), there's also the issue of screwing with people's lives. A lot of people are born and die in five years, a lot of things happen that change lives. Who is Superman to monkey with billions of lives just to solve his own problems? Indeed, who is he to do it in the Donner cut of Superman II, or even Superman I?