JulianPerez
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« on: March 05, 2006, 11:52:01 AM » |
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It is true that Mr. Mxyzptlk and the Golden Age Mr. Mxyztplk have different names, however, they remained fundamentally the same individual with the same motivation (make mischief for Superman) and all had more or less the same problem, namely having their name spoken backwards. All emerged from a similar extradimensional source. Is it possible it is the very same dimension, and that all the Mr. Mxyzptlks on Earth-1, Earth-2, and Post-Crisis, are the exact same guy?
Supposedly, the Post-Reboot Mxyzptlk used very, very high tech dimensional science to perform his feats...which is as good enough an explanation as I've ever heard for magic. Arthur C. Clarke had a famous quote about this, which I can't remember right now.
And it is true that in various Superboy stories - notably, the first appearance of the White Witch in ADVENTURE COMICS - that Mr. Mxy was "young looking" when Superboy was a lad. However, it is true that Mr. Mxyzptlk can change shape; he looks however he wants to look. This can account for the minor physical differences between the versions of Mr. Mxy.
Also, it would explain why Mr. Mxy created Red Kryptonite, Post-Crisis: he "remembers" it from Earth-1.
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DoctorZero
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2006, 01:34:50 PM » |
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I would prefer to think that it was. Especially since he came from a different dimension, not a parallel world. I actually do rather like the explanation of his magic being high tech science, and since magic has fundamentally changed in the DC Universe now that would prevent the character from having to undergo any more changes. Time will tell but I suspect that DC's going with the explanation that he has been changed along with Crisis and Zero Hour. Again, not necessary since he wasn't from a parallel world but a different dimension entirely.
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Uncle Mxy
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2006, 02:44:33 AM » |
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World's Funnest just has to be canon, I tellya.
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2006, 12:04:38 AM » |
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E Nelson Bridwell established that Mr. Mxyztplk (pronounced mux-ixt-pulk) & Mr. Mxyzptlk were not the same guy. Each was from a different 5th dimensional universe called Zrfff.
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2006, 10:44:37 PM » |
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I believe that Myxyzptlk is the one character who is the same person from the Golden Age to todays universe, I wonder when his next appearance will be?
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2006, 01:22:20 AM » |
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I believe it was more or less "canon" that there were two distinct Mxys, and his distinct look, personality and name spelling has been used to separate Earth 1 and 2...logically, it could be a toss up, one dimension unaffected by universe contractions, but then again, most of the pre Crisis universes had their own three dimensions, so I assume they could have their own 5th dimensions...good question, one where the writers could have actually had some freedom of choice....
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Criadoman
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2006, 06:02:52 AM » |
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If I'm not mistaken, the only real difference in the multiverse anyway was simply a matter of vibration. At least in some of the early E2 stories I've read, one could go from one earth to another simply by changing their vibrational frequency - however, all the different universes existed at the same time and almost in the same place (again, simply separated by their vibrational freqencies). Which, by the way, despite COIE, 0-Hour and IC - creations of other universes have been going strong since the original Crisis. E.g. the "pocket universe", the Phantom Zone universe, the new E2 Universe of the Crime Synidcate, Quarm, the "Marvel Universe" al la "JLA/Avengers", et al. So, multi-universes stayed around long after Crisis.
Because the 5th dimension is a dimension, I'd view that as senior to a universe in the 3rd. In other words, I'd view a certain level of dimension and within that dimension would exist a universe (or universes, in this case). E2 is in a 3D universe, separated from others by vibration.
What is interesting to me is that really, there is no rule that states an inhabitant from another dimension has to be superior to another from another dimension. But, that's another tangent.
I would hypothosize that another dimension, particularly one like the 5th and it's magic and advanced skills and differences in physics probably should not and does not have a multiverse. I'd further consider that that property makes a sort of "integrated universe" - with all potentials not separated via virbrational frequencies. (In my view it would have to already be to a degree that Mxy and others can use their skills in the 3D universe. They'd also have to have all knowledge and control of 3D to make the 3D bend to their will like they can.) Hence, the advanced state of said dimension and it's inhabitants. They are all "integrated" and able to utilize their full potential (think "we only use a small percentage of our minds" to get what I mean by being "integrated" and realizing complete potential), which includes the full potential of our own universes.
At least those are the rules I'd probably apply to this. Ergo - and a very interesting way to develop some imaginative stories, I'd view there being only one Mxy. (Get Mxy saying to today's Supes "You're just as sappy today as you were in the 40's" - and Supes going "Wha--?")
Speaking of the Phantom Zone universe, remember when Superman did his "Return To Krypton" stories with the alternate Krypton of B13's creation? Has anything been done with that Kal-El (the one that was born and is being raise on the Phantom Zone Krypton)? There's some serious story potential there.
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2006, 08:23:42 AM » |
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It could also be that Mr. Mxyzptlk's appearance shifts because of the vibrational frequencies between dimensions. So he's seen as the dapper chap in the blue suit and derby on Earth-2, and the familiar orange prankster on Earth-1. Perhaps in his home dimension Mr. Mxyzptlk REALLY looks like the green alien in "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?"? (In this scenario, Mxyzptlk could maintain his appearance when Superman visited the Fifth Dimension since Superman still retained his "home" vibrational frequency -- had Supes stayed for a prolonged time, this illusion would fade.)
By the way, you might have noticed that Mr. Mxyzptlk reverted to his earlier blue suit appearance just prior to Infinite Crisis, and he was plainly trying to warn both Clark and Lois of the approaching storm. (You know something BAD is coming when Mxy's dead serious.) :shock: There was a Superman Secret Files and Origins (I think in 2004?) that had a brief Mr. Mxyzptlk in the Fifth Dimension story. At the time, I was a bit confused with "Bipolar Disorder", but now I see this as the explanation on why Mxy changed back to his "old look". (It's still a bit zany, though.) :wink:
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