Superman Through the Ages! Forum

Hi

I have been looking for an old Superman story for some time!

Superman has traveled back in time (or forced back?), a very long time! Milions of years! He finds himself without powers because the sun i red!

It is long gone since I read it so that is all I remember! I may be from 1950 or so!

Any clue?

IpComics

Is this (http://superman.nu/tales2/redsun/) the one you're thinking of?

(http://superman.nu/tales2/redsun/action300.jpg) (http://superman.nu/tales2/redsun/)

I know how you feel, I'd been wanting to read that story for a long time before I ever tracked down a copy of it!

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Hi



Sorry, it is not! This from Action 300, you have here is a future traveling!  :wink:

In "mine" story he goes back in time!

And you should also have in mind that the story probably is made in 1950 or so! I read it in Norway before 1971! The problem is that we had a book called "Supermann", but the stories were from every possible US editions with the character! I never know where to look!



I have been looking for a few stories lately, but because of the way they were published in Norway it is not easy! But I have been lucky!!

IpComics[/quote]

It sounds like an interesting story.  If anyone has any ideas what it could be, please chime in, I might be able to track down a copy and add it to the site.

Here are a couple of other possibilities I've found, but they don't completely match your description either.  Do you have any more information - like who the artist was, any more details about the story, etc?

(http://www.mycomicshop.com/webpics/B3229171.JPG) (http://www.mycomicshop.com/megastore/viewitem.cfm?itemID=65523&ItemType=B)

(http://www.mycomicshop.com/webpics/B3229184.JPG) (http://www.mycomicshop.com/megastore/viewitem.cfm?itemID=65536&ItemType=B)

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How about this one?
http://superman.nu/tales3/greensun/

Hi

Thanks for using of your time trying to find this story! I have got a lot of help from fellow fans of classics DC during the last months!

When you only can remeber fragments of the story you read as a kid there is not much to look for! I have mangaed to collect a lot scanned Action Comics and Superman so I have found some of my childhood classics! Some even where from the World's Finest series, perhaps this story (I start wonder if it exist) is from another series than the AC and Superman? It is not WF, that is for sure!

I remember it should be a very long time back, Superman was captive by a ruler race on Earth!

Sorry folks, non of the books sugested here mach!!

IpComics

Does anyone have The Great Superman Book by Michael L. Fleisher?

One can just look up Red Sun in there.

I recall an Action Comics story from the 70s or 80s where Superman journeyed to a future Earth where our sun had turned red.  In this era, Terrans and Rigellians were happily coexisting, but intermarriages and half-breeds between the two races were shunned.  The Terran-Rigellian hybrids found that they grew stronger as the sun turned redder so they artificially made the sun go red.  Superman managed to somehow switch off the artificial red sun effect to regain his powers, defeat the rebels, and return to his own time.

That may be the story he wants.  I even remember the cover had Superman being blasted on the chest without his powers but I don't recall the exact number nor the title.

Hi



That sounds very close! But it should be before 1971, as I am sure I did read it in the 60es!

Thanks anyway!

IpComics

IpComics, you may want to look at the cover scans at Mike's Amazing World of DC Comics (http://www.dcindexes.com). It could take a while, especially if you have a slow link, but you may find the issue you are looking for.

Since the story involves Superman under a red sun, I would bet that it was published after 1954. That is just a guess on my part, because I seem to recall that the yellow sun/red sun thing was introduced in the mid-50s. Hopefully, someone will correct me if I'm wrong about that.

Based on the above, you should start looking at Superman #94 and Action Comics #200. If this could actually be a Superboy story, you also need to see the two titles he was appearing in starting at Superboy #38 and Adventure Comics #208.

Another thing to remember, however, is that many comics back in the 1950s and 1960s had more than one story inside. The cover image may not relate to the story you are looking for.

Finally, regarding the story Great Rao suggested "Superman Under the Red Sun!" (http://superman.nu/tales2/redsun), I think a page must have been omitted from the story. Does anyone know what the Red Kryptonite did?

You'll have to ask Mort, because that's the whole story.  I know we already discussed this in one of the forums or maybe the mailing list, and I think someone even figured out why the story was published as it was, and what the original intent might have been, but I don't remember the details.

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Hi



I have tried to do so, but no luck! I am slowly loosing fato on my memory here!  :oops:



I may mix the art with another story, but as I remember it is should be soetime in the fifties! And I am sure you are right about the red/yellow sun part!

I have mostly been reading "silver AGE", so I thend to forget that not everything were there from the beginning!



That is just another "problem"!



I don't think there is anything wrong with the copy you read! I had a look at mine, all pages there! Anyway, when I first read it, I where confused too!

He lost his powers because of the RED sun, and could not speed back! He used the shrinking ray to become tiny! What did he use the red K for? Perhaps the artist forgot a page? I sure was never printed!!

IpComics

That story looks tampered with.  When I read it elsewhere, Superman shrank himself with the red K to fit inside the Kandorian rocketship.  Note that in our time, he has his powers back but he has to wait for the red K exposure to expired to be his normal super-self.  I guess someone complained that red K shouldn't affect a non-super Superman and the story was altered.  But, again, the version I read used the red K to shrink Superman.

Also, an old Legion story has Superboy and the Legion travelling back in time to when Earth's sun was red.  That may be the story you meant as that's the only one I'm aware of where Kal of any age went back in time to a red sun Earth.

Where did you read that?  I was under the (apparently mistaken) impression that the first and only printing of this story was in Action 300.

I don't recall the exact source but it was a reprint of the story not the original.  It was one of those collections issues of old greats.  I'm pretty sure it was printed more than once.

If you look at the last page of the link that we have here, it does have Superman thinking the red K effects have to wear off before he's back to his old super-self.  The thing we see is a normal-sized Superman.  The panel with the shrink-ray originally had him next to the red K as it shrank him like it did Krypto.

Kind of odd that the first printing would be so hackishly edited, but that the reprint would be the original version of the story.

I stand corrected that what I saw was the 'original' when it was obviously altered to better fit the story.

Something similar happened with The Reign of the Supermen.  The original text in one story had Steel calling the construct 'Engine City' before they could have known it yet.  It should have still been Coast City or the remains of same to them.  The TPB reprint corrected that.

A reprint of Supergirl's first origin substituted 'heat vision' for 'heat of X-ray vision' for a panel.

So, I can see the reprint fixing a story problem here retroactively.

According to the BEST OF DC BLUE RIBBON DIGEST (http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/asimov/20/digest.html) index on the Spanish Superman homepage, "Superman Under the Red Sun!" (http://superman.nu/tales2/redsun) was reprinted in Best of DC Blue Ribbon Digest #1. Perhaps that is where you saw the "corrected" reprint.

I have several of the digest comics from that time, but I never had that one.

There's no missing pages from that story; that's how it was originally presented (I have the original, which matches what was used on this site).  Confusing, isn't it?

I think what was supposed to happen in the last panel on page 13 was that Superman exposes himself to the red kryptonite, which then makes him tiny enough for the rocket ship.  Then the comment on page 14 makes sense, where he says he just needs to wait for the red kryptonite to wear off.  Why they inserted the bit about the shrinking ray, who knows (probably poor editing).

I think when they reprinted this in Best of DC #1 in 1979, they apparently fixed it (my copy isn't handy).

Another possible Red Sun story is Action #350, "The Secret of the Stone-Age Superman", where he travels back in time.  See here (http://www.comics.org/details.lasso?id=20949).

It looks as though you have hit on the right story, ProfPotter.

I have just read my copy of  Action Comics #350 (May 1967), featuring the story The Secret of the Stone-Age Superman!, written by Otto Binder, and illustrated by Wayne Boring, and in it Superman goes back to 700,000 B.C., according to the splash page blurb (but a little later on in the story it says Superman went back more than a million years!), to investigate the discovery, by Perry White and others, of a caveman skeleton  wearing a Superman costume, in a cavern in France.

Superman promptly loses his powers because the sun is red at this time (according to this story, anyway), but after a series of adventures he is rescued by one of his Clark Kent robots wearing a Superman costume.

But because Superman does not want to reappear back in the present with his robot also wearing a Superman uniform he tells the latter to change to his Clark Kent clothes. The robot does so, but then forgets to bring his uniform along (how can a robot forget?!?). The discarded costume is then donned by one of the caveman, to be discovered in the twentieth century.

Great job guys!


(http://www.comics.org/graphics/covers/97/400/97_4_0000350.jpg)

IpComics should be dancing for joy if he when he sees this.