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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2005, 03:20:03 AM »

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DC is clueless and I don't see that changing anytime soon, if ever.  I don't support any current books of theirs and the only thing that keeps me from wishing they'd simply shut down is the Archives and various reprints.  If the likes of IC is what keeps them in business, then I hope the suckers keep lining up for more.  Just keep DC solvent long enough to crank out a couple more Man of Tomorrow Archives!

Oh, and the figures!  DC makes nice toys.  Well, except that they're often a bit limited in poseability.  How am I going to twist my Sue Dibney figure into that 6-inch fridge if she's only got 4 points of articulation?


Right now my DC purchases are limited to Johns' Green Lantern, Busiek's JLA, and Superman & Batman. The last one's on the chopping block due to good art wasted on bad stories, and if the first two start becoming angsty pitch-black drek like Meltzer's trash and the rest of the DC line, I'm dropping them in a heartbeat. The only stuff I know I'll be picking up in the long-term for certain is All-Stars Superman and some reprints.

As for DC Direct, I like some of their action figures and statues. The comics? Getting worse all the time.

EDIT: By the way, regarding Gail Simone...if her run on Action is as bad as the last several years of Superman have been and if she goes for the whole ID thing, too, I will be very put out, considering how vocal she seems to be about DC's penchant for killing every woman they get their hands on. I'm still amazed Zatanna was spared a throat-slitting in the 11th hour in ID....
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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2005, 03:32:25 AM »

I recommend Mark Waid's new LSH title.
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2005, 04:45:05 AM »

It's not just DC that's eating it's own legacy in the name of a self-destructive quick buck.  Look what DC's parent company, WB, is doing to the iconic Bugs Bunny for its new cartoons:



This sort of thing is just incredibly stupid and short sighted.  Because the more they keep doing this, the less interest people have in the characters and the less money they make.  As one article said, "If Warner Bros. wants to revive their vintage characters, they'd be better served by creating better scripts and scenarios for them, always the core of the original cartoons' success, than by making the sorts of superficial, ill-conceived changes that threaten to make their franchise players generic and forgettable."
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2005, 06:10:29 AM »

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It's not just DC that's eating it's own legacy in the name of a self-destructive quick buck.  Look what DC's parent company, WB, is doing to the iconic Bugs Bunny for its new cartoons:



This sort of thing is just incredibly stupid and short sighted.  Because the more they keep doing this, the less interest people have in the characters and the less money they make.  As one article said, "If Warner Bros. wants to revive their vintage characters, they'd be better served by creating better scripts and scenarios for them, always the core of the original cartoons' success, than by making the sorts of superficial, ill-conceived changes that threaten to make their franchise players generic and forgettable."


Actually, the characters in Loonatics are supposed to be descendants of the classic characters. Nevertheless, you're right. It's stupid. And it's failing. I've heard stories about kids looking at these characters and going "Is that an evil version of Bugs Bunny?"

As for WB and "re-imaginings," check out what very nearly happened to the Superman movie before Bryan Singer came along:

http://invisionfree.com/forums/No_Cookie_for_You/index.php?showtopic=577

Their plans for Wonder Woman, Gaiman's Sandman, and Green Lantern were just as bad.
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« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2005, 06:50:34 AM »

Thanks for the explanation about "Loonatics", King.  For a moment I thought someone had merged Bugs with Wile E. Coyote!   :shock:

I just glanced through your Superman movie posting at http://invisionfree.com/forums/No_Cookie_for_You/index.php?showtopic=577, but I'll have to read it again more carefully after I recover from the initial horror.  What Hollywood planned for poor Supes was even WORSE than the actual indignities DC inflicted on him during the "Iron Age".  Thank Rao these projects were cancelled!
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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2005, 04:46:55 PM »

It's only going to get worse.  Apparently IC just wasn't enough, now theres this DC Countdown thing and even Jack Kirbys OMAC is getting messed with.

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28181

I'm expecting something to the tune of Brother Eye and evil goverment group controled all your comics as you knew them and once they are gone the battles will now be "real".
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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2005, 06:54:40 PM »

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It's only going to get worse.  Apparently IC just wasn't enough, now theres this DC Countdown thing and even Jack Kirbys OMAC is getting messed with.

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28181

I'm expecting something to the tune of Brother Eye and evil goverment group controled all your comics as you knew them and once they are gone the battles will now be "real".


I've known about Countdown. That's supposed to be the book that sets off the IC-ing of the entire DCU. (And judging from the preview art, there's going to be another death; speculation has it that either Nightwing or Blue Beetle may bite it.)

DC loves to make bad comics, don't they?
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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2005, 07:35:54 PM »

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I think that's an over generalization.

Birthright was fantastic, All-Star is very exicting, Legion is a lot of fun, and I'm sure there are  other good ones too, I just don't follow them because they're not Superman related so I don't know what they are.  I've heard good things about the new GL, but I can't say for myself.

And with the wonderful news that the new Superman movie is going to be in the established Christopher Reeve movie continuity, and that the beautiful Noel Neill is going to have a role, it sure looks like there are people involved with this movie who very much know what they are doing!
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