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Title: ...And So It Ends
Post by: DBN on May 14, 2011, 12:15:03 AM
...with zombie Lionel, magic memory erasing blood, and no clear shot of the hero in the suit other than a lame chest rip.

The clearest shot of the hero is an image from a comic book shown in the book-end scene with Chloe. Other than that, it's a CGI character with Welling head sometimes superimposed.

10 years in and they stilled ripped the fans off.  ;D


Title: Re: ...And So It Ends
Post by: MatterEaterLad on May 14, 2011, 05:12:06 PM
I'm not sure I agree, but for opposite reasons.

The series spent a decade trying to establish a young love and soapish take on Superman, and at the end, it forces homages to the Donner Superman style.


Title: Re: ...And So It Ends
Post by: nightwing on May 14, 2011, 10:42:12 PM
It's over now?

Wow, ten seasons and I avoided watching all but two episodes, and those way back in Season 1 and neither all the way through.  This has to rank as my most-ignored version of media Superman ever, and it doesn't sound like I missed much.

What I want to know is what the "Superman Homepage" is going to do for content now that twice-daily "Smallville" posts are no longer an option.


Title: Re: ...And So It Ends
Post by: Klar Ken T5477 on May 15, 2011, 11:06:44 AM
They'll do Man of Steel PR releases


Title: Re: ...And So It Ends
Post by: BBally81 on May 15, 2011, 08:54:12 PM
Smallville is at heart, a hit and miss show, not a masterpiece but not a terrible show either, still would rather watch this than Superman Returns quite frankly and Micheal Rosenbaum is a better live action Lex than Kevin Spacey or even Gene Hackman.

Also, I like this scene

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv4ix_krcWw


Title: Re: ...And So It Ends
Post by: Aldous on May 17, 2011, 04:13:31 PM
I watched the first two seasons, maybe three (can't remember) and I think you did miss something.

It was young and fresh and energetic, and it was about Superman.

I thought it was really good. When I was watching it, I liked the portrayals of Pa Kent and Lex Luthor in particular. These guys were great! At that time, if I remember rightly, there was still a building sense of tragedy that the Lex-Clark friendship was going wrong, and I was fascinated. Very watchable.

It's a truism that the second season of any show is probably the best, and it's in decline through the third... Anything good after that is a bonus but don't expect much.

Nightwing, one day get out the first two seasons on DVD. Maybe the first three.


It's over now?

Wow, ten seasons and I avoided watching all but two episodes, and those way back in Season 1 and neither all the way through.  This has to rank as my most-ignored version of media Superman ever, and it doesn't sound like I missed much.

What I want to know is what the "Superman Homepage" is going to do for content now that twice-daily "Smallville" posts are no longer an option.


Title: Re: ...And So It Ends
Post by: nightwing on May 17, 2011, 09:03:48 PM
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Nightwing, one day get out the first two seasons on DVD. Maybe the first three.

If by "get out," you mean check them out of the library, maybe so, when I'm done with everything else I want to see.

My wife got into the show in the first couple seasons because she was up late at night with two babies in a row and it came on about 1 AM here.  In truth, part of the reason I never got hooked is doubtless because the show was so inaccessible to me; we don't have cable and had no Warner affiliate, so we were stuck with re-runs on an NBC station in the wee hours.  Considering it looked like a cross between "Dawson's Creek" and "the X-Files" (or more concisely, like a rip-off of "Roswell"), I didn't feel too motivated to make the effort.



Title: Re: ...And So It Ends
Post by: BBally81 on May 17, 2011, 11:31:24 PM
I watched the first two seasons, maybe three (can't remember) and I think you did miss something.

It was young and fresh and energetic, and it was about Superman.

I thought it was really good. When I was watching it, I liked the portrayals of Pa Kent and Lex Luthor in particular. These guys were great! At that time, if I remember rightly, there was still a building sense of tragedy that the Lex-Clark friendship was going wrong, and I was fascinated. Very watchable.

It's a truism that the second season of any show is probably the best, and it's in decline through the third... Anything good after that is a bonus but don't expect much.

Nightwing, one day get out the first two seasons on DVD. Maybe the first three.


I agree, except I would say the first 4 seasons were really good, season 5 was okay but it was around 6 when things started to go wrong but things started to get back on track at season 9 and season 10 was a satisfying if not so spectacular conclusion. Erica Durance started was a great Lois Lane, Michael Rosenbaum was in my opinion the best live action Lex Luthor.

Although I glad a Superman related show is the longest running superhero show ever, I can't help but think of how much the show could've ended on a much better note if it just ran for 5 or 6 seasons as originally planned before CW network decided to extend it after seeing how popular it was compared to the rest of its programings.


Title: Re: ...And So It Ends
Post by: MatterEaterLad on May 20, 2011, 07:47:56 PM
I would not say the first two seasons were "great"...tale after tale of "meteor freak" of the week. But they DID have some good moments in some episodes where you almost felt the pain of Clark trying to be a human and understand why he was not with Lana. I LOVED the episode with Bart Allen...there really was an idea of a teenager with super powers who is finally relieved that another person has some too...Clark's expression when the Flash smokes even his super speed is really cool (though no one ever explained how the shoes held up).

Then it got maudlin. Moping over Lana (to the point where even fans wanted Lana's character killed), Lex's mysterious motivations. The search for the "code" and a lot of "mystery" never resolved over season after season. To get away from this, the show suddenly started bringing in variations on DC characters, sometimes good, sometimes pretty bad. I could take Green Arrow, but when Supergirl suddenly was lecturing Clark...yuck. Tentative romance after romance. Chloe and some "false" Jimmy Olsen. Season long references to the Phantom Zone, Doomsday, Bizarro, Zodd - all culminating in weak  and quick conclusions. Characters in Metropolis driving back to the coffee shop in Smallville to enact scenes.

But the show had one thing. It was a really EMOTIONAL take on Superman. It was DIFFERENT. But the series finale threw it all away. Clark gets the suit, the Donner music is everywhere and suddenly he is play-acting exactly like the bumbling Kent from the the Donner movie.