Superman Through the Ages! Forum

I wanted to know did supernan or Clark Kent have a dog in the comic? what was its name.

also I am a big fan of the new lois and Clark. 1993- 1997. I really miss the show and wish it was still on. I think Dean Cain was one of the best supermen. I wish they would com out with another movie with Dean playing Superman. Now I am a Big Dean Cain fan.

I wanted to know what other though of him and who they liked. :D  :D

Superman's dog was of course Krypto,http://superman.nu/starwinds-howl/welcome.php check out this link to STarwinds Howl for some info on Krypto



Lois and Clark The New Adventures of Superman was a favorite show of mine also for most of its run.  I really lost interest when they cloned Lois and had the clone marry Clark - it made no sense story wise to do that and the scripts really were going down hill from there.  I think Dean Cain was the luckiest actor on Television - he got to work with Teri Hatcher.  I take the show for what it was worth - a updated look at the Lois and Clark/Superman relationship with a super-villian thrown in on the side.  Nothing classic but overall an enjoyable show.

Can Rao move this to the Superman! section, this might get more responses there. This section is just for site updates snowangle, just so you know next time. Welcome to the board, I hope you enjoy your stay.

Actually, I made a Lois & Clark section.  If it dies out, I'll move this back to Superman! as you suggest.

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Dean Cain is hot. :lol:

I'm glad to have learned about this site and will check back frequently. L&C fans will find there are still many, many fans around the world (no doubt many more than read the comics since DC didn't do anything to cater to L&C fans  :cry: --at least in the USA), and that the show a long history of fandom starting back in the Fall of 1993. A google search for Lois and Clark, plus perhaps the name Zoomway will bring you lots of links.  :D

Here is a link to the TNT website with a weekly Lois and Clark epsidoe guide
http://www.tnt.tv/Title/Display/0,5918,307664~Series,00.html.

The real shame about TNT is that they run the show at 8:00 am weekly - which is when I have to get ready and go to work so I miss the last 15 minutes of each show. But it does allow me to have my Teri Hatcher fix before I go off to work each morning which is almost as good as a good hot cup of coffee.

I enjoyed the show for the most part. Cain's Clark was the best since George Reeves. The biggest complaint I have is the costume they gave Cain to wear was godawful compared to Chris Reeve's. Heck even the late 80's Superboy costume was superior.

I agree on that point but I have to say that Dean was the best dressed Clark Kent ever of course since the name was Lois and Clark I have to say that Teri Hatcher's Lois was able to show both a Professional and Sensual side to her outfits and who could ever forget Lois the biker babe in leather and a tattoo

Yow!  That sounds like something I certainly wouldn't want to forget!  Which episode was that?

I guess they spent the budget on Clark's clothes not Superman's. Teri Hatcher is definitely the hottest Lois yet. She'd be my choice to play Lois in the neww movie, especially if they pick a bit older actor like Brendan Fraiser to play Supes.

What didn't you guys like about Dean Cain's Superman costume?

I thought it was a good mix of the old and the new, and I liked the slight modifications that they made to the S.

(http://superman.nu/fos/thescreen/lnc/dean-welcome.jpg)
(http://www.soapsgirl.org/images/primetime/lois&clark/superman.jpg)

Well I thought the colors were too bright for one, the belt always looked more like a old hot wheels race track, the boots were okay but just a tad to dark and thought that th cape was a bit to long.

This sort of thing is all a matter of personal taste, anyway, but I liked the Cain costume, particularly the darker blue. The shiny material made me stop and think, but I came to like it. Okay, the boots were a bit off, but I wonder if that and some of the other "changes" were deliberate -- to reinforce the "home-made" idea of Clark's suit. As he put it in the pilot, "My mother made it for me." So maybe some of the differences between this and other versions of the costume reflect that particular point, which was a continuing thread throughout the first season and, more rarely, thereafter.

Other changes, like the bigger cape, were made to reflect the artwork of the time when the series was being planned, IMO -- most notably, the way that John Byrne made Superman's cape much bigger (at times, it looked like he'd borrowed one of Thor's! :lol:) and had it swirl more. And then there was the question of budget...! The various changes of the suit over the course of the series -- especially from the pilot to the first season -- simply reflect the studio spending money on the suit(s) and getting experience with how it worked visually and practically.

But, for all that, it was still Superman up there; a slightly different Superman, perhaps, but a darn good one and the first post-Crisis screen version.

I think you make good points & yes there was a homemade look to the costume.  If i gave the impression I didn't like the show that was my mistake. Its strengths vastly outweigh its weaknesses.

I agree that the show wasn't classic super hero action but I learned to accept it for what it was a light romaniac Action show featuring Superman but the real stars of the show were Lois and Clark not Superman.  The series heart and soul was their relationship.  On that level it was wonderful well until the clone story.

You are exactly correct about the heart & soul of the show being the relationship of Lois & Clark. The few attempts at real action were erratic at best. The show was originally intended as a 9 or 10 o'clock show. It would have been interesting to see what it might have been if ABC had run it at the intended time period.

While I agree about the boots, they should have matched it to the rest of the red in the costume, and the belt should have been a little toned down, but the long cape.  I think that was what was great.  I always picture Superman having a cape larger then life, to go with the rest of him.

And I agree with Ric-El, Dean is gorgeous.

I think the suit valdemar pictured was great!  I don't mind the color of the boots so much as how loose and wrinkled they look.  Cain did have a different suit that I didn't like.  I can't seem to find my pictures of it unfortunately, maybe someone else can find one.  The cape was attached to the front of his shoulders over big padded squares.  It was really weird.  It made him look like some beefed up parody of a superhero you might see on SNL or Jay and Silent Bob.

-Just another Cain thought:  Does anyone remember in the 1st or 2nd episode when Lois sees Clark in a towel after just getting out of the shower?  Wow! :love:

I really liked Lois and Clark up until the point where they brought the Kryptonians back. Even pre-crisis, there were only a handful of survivors from the planet Krypton, Him, his Cousin, and that annoying Dog. Post-Crisis his race were unable to leave the planet because the eradicator had genetically bound them to the planet. His father removed the genetic binding from Kal-El and sent him off. It made no sense to me to bring the entire kryptonian race back, it wa pointless and stupid and destroyed one of the main points of the superman character. Still other than that and after they buggered off again, the show picked up till they ran out of ideas and had him as robin hood. Still, fantastic series overall, with one or two bad eggs.

I kinda disagree I think it would be resonable to say that at a given point Krypton had colonies and it lost contact after the move to become an isolationist world. I don't know if that justifies the Kyrptonians in the show coming back for Kal-El, but I took it for what it is, just another variation of the Superman stories.  The story within itself was interesting if you move it away from the mainstream Superman continuity.

Anyway I would like to see a small world of a few thousand Kryptonians appear in the comic.  Not necessarily the way TV handled them, but something along the lines of Superman discovers them and studies them from a far, they have no knowledge of Earth and Kal-El.

im proud you guys have a whole section of the site dedicated to me (krypto) lol

Nothing personal against Dean Cain, but Kevin Sorbo would have made a better Superman.

Dean's suit changed a lot in season 1, and I seem to remember them changing it again in season 2. Guess it took the costume department a while to get it right. Plus I seem to remember Dean once saying in an interview - his body shaped changed slightly over the years which meant minor changes to the tights all the time.

I remember the 'S' in the Pilot ep being really small in comparison to the suit in the photo posted above.  I prefered the bigger  :s:  so when they did modify the costume it usually looked better for it IMO :)



Yeah, and Lois says, "I said nine I thought you be'd naked, I mean, *ready*"  ;)   I like the added comedy when Lois then preceeds to look in Clark's fridge whilst he gets dressed to find it full of junk food and asks him, "You eat like an eight year old and look like Mr. Hardbody. What's your secret?"  :lol:

I'm a big fan of show, even after the Lois clone thing - I must be one of the few that liked that story - mainly cos Lex was back :D   I think the writers did a good job of actually letting Lois & Clark develop as characters and in their relationship as the seasons went on.

Dj in the UK

The show wasn't a classic but when you accept it for the Light romantic/action oriented show it was and understand that the relationship between Lois and Clark was the heart and soul of the show - then you see a wonderful show it was.

Kevin Sorbo would make a good superman as would many different people but I don't think Sorbo did so bad with that little show of his back then - you know the one called "Hercules."

It was the first show of its kind. Until then all Superman shows were about the man of steel. His alter ego, his family and his friends were not even supporting cast. L&C was meant to follow the Superman comic back then (late 80's-early to mid 90's) For example Superman's longer cape. Also the story with New Krypton was written as a major crisis similar to the one of the Superman's death on the comic book (Remember the black suite?). Lois and Clark revealed the true identity of the man of steel. Like in the comic book at the time Superman was the disguise. Clark Kent disguised as Superman to use his powers publicly. And that was different because until then Superman disguised into mild mannered reporter Clark Kent.
L&C wasn't so much action-based. It was about the early years of Superman and how his life was changed when he met Lois Lane, no longer part of the supporting cast, but just as important as Clark.

I went from two extremes with Lois and Clark. When the show started I absolutely loved it, it was by far my favourite show and I would look forward to it all week (much the the amusement of my girlfriends at the time). I love the character of Superman but it's hard to portray his character well. He's such a Boy Scout that it's easy to make him not particularly interesting (eg the animated series of Superman or justice league - I just want to slap him sometimes) but I think Dean Cain did a really good job of balancing the innocence which was helped a great deal by the chemistry with Terri Hatcher. However once Lois knew superman was Clark it seemed to deteriorate from there and turned into a very run of the mill sitcom.

I really liked the show. Maybe because it was the only Superman of my generation. Yes I missed out on the Movies and George Reeves as well :(.
Though I did watch the movies when I was young, I never really got into them (been meaning to buy them lately) and though I watched the old show I also was never a huge fan, though I did enjoy it.

I'm actually really surprised that people people also liked this show, often when I have looked around people really didn't like the show and specially not Dean Cain as Superman. The big reason I heard (other than: I just didn't like it) was that Dean Cain wasn't really an impressive Superman, or that he was too short. I think Dean Cain is 6'1" and Superman 'should' be 6'3".

I didn't like the costume.  The elblem, based on the John Byrne version, was too large.  It stood out way too much, making Cain's shoulders and chest look small by comparison.  The elblem looked fine in the pilot episode.  It doesn't need to be the size of Texas.
     They never gave Dean Cain a hairstyle as Superman.  They just slicked it back.  Whenever you saw Cain being interviewed, when it was Dean Cain the actor that you were seeing, he had a hairstyle, and he did look like Superman.  With his hair slicked back for the show, not as much.