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Title: L&C - Season One
Post by: Klar Ken T5477 on June 26, 2005, 11:34:29 AM
Just watched 3 eps - the pilot, strange visitor and the panic in the sky re-deux...YEAH baby!

Delivers the goods where Smallville is just one big loooooooooong tease.

John Shea is a great unrepetant master of evil Luthor. Dean & Hatcher's chemistry is top notch and the writing fun.

Whatever  happened to Deborah Joy Levine - the producer?


Title: Re: L&C - Season One
Post by: Lois Lane on June 29, 2005, 02:17:49 AM
I believe she was let go or maybe even fired. It had something to do with different writers butting heads or something like that. I can't quite remember my LnC behind the scenes history. lol!


Title: Re: L&C - Season One
Post by: DoctorZero on July 03, 2005, 09:20:08 AM
I also heard she was let go.  Due to ABC wanting to go in a different direction and she not wanting that.
The first year was the best year.  After that it was way too uneven.


Title: Re: L&C - Season One
Post by: Lois Lane on July 03, 2005, 08:01:23 PM
I think the first two seasons of Lois & Clark were really good. The third and fourth seasons were hit and miss with certain episodes but I believe the fourth season was better than the third.

I'm what you call a "super" fan of L&C so all in all I enjoy the show immensely and I can't find anything to really complain about it. I was one of those people who was absolutely heartbroken TPTB canceled us out of a Season 5.
  :(


Title: Re: L&C - Season One
Post by: Klar Ken T5477 on July 06, 2005, 12:21:32 AM
All I know is whatcing the first season so far they;rte batting a 99 through Green Green rocks of Home.

Smart kids was a dud.

Lex &  Perry are aces! :)


Title: Re: L&C - Season One
Post by: Lois Lane on July 06, 2005, 12:43:37 AM
I can't argue on that one. "Smart Kids," is one of my least favorite episodes. lol! :wink:


Title: Re: L&C - Season One
Post by: lucky devil on December 11, 2005, 09:02:26 AM
I'm a really big fan of LnC just like you guys but I live in the Netherlands. Now I have a question. When comes the first season on dvd in europe?


Title: Re: L&C - Season One
Post by: Uncle Mxy on January 08, 2006, 03:09:29 PM
Quote from: "DoctorZero"
I also heard she was let go.  Due to ABC wanting to go in a different direction and she not wanting that.
The first year was the best year.  After that it was way too uneven.

One of the big conflicts was about getting Lois & Clark together in the first place.  

LeVine didn't want them even really getting together until the 5th season, way off in the horizon, and wanted marriage as the series finale whenever that would happen.  I remember an interview at the time where she talked about learning a lesson from Moonlighting.  

But, the pinheads at DC, who already had them engaged for a few years (sustaining romantic tension was outside their world view) were eager to get them married.  Creative bankruptcy being what it is, they struggled with how to have the wedding not happen before the TV show launch, as they wanted the comic book and TV series to have a wedding at the same time (this before the TV series was filmed and they had a clue on what it would be like and how it would appeal).  This led to the Doomsday "Death of Superman" arc, which turned out to be successful beyond their wildest dreams.  When they eventually brought Superman back like they had to, they were really in a bind to do The Next Big Thing to maintain the sales momentum, which led them back on the marriage kick.  

In general, there was an expectation that the TV show would be more "action" and less "romance", and the Powers That Be just never figured out what made the show tick, and screwed it up totally.  Canning LeVine was just another part of that.


Title: Re: L&C - Season One
Post by: Genis Vell on January 08, 2006, 05:21:05 PM
"Lois & Clark", alongside MAN OF STEEL, made me a Superman fan.
In the last issue of the Italian Superman monthly series I have written an article about this serial... And I know that, without "Lois & Clark", I couldn'a have been there to write an article about... "Lois & Clark"!
Continuity paradoxes in the real life. Heh.


Title: Re: L&C - Season One
Post by: living not existing on February 02, 2009, 03:59:07 PM
I also heard she was let go.  Due to ABC wanting to go in a different direction and she not wanting that.
The first year was the best year.  After that it was way too uneven.

That would explain the decline of the series.

They recast Jimmy Olsen, which I did not appreciate. Cat Grant is also unwritten out, as if she never existed. Then they 'killed' Lex Luthor because they felt that (I'm paraphrasing) "we've always seen Lex Luthor..." excuse. And than they proceed to give us terrible, uninteresting villains. John Shea could of been the only villain in the entire show's run, he was that amazing as Lex Luthor. I missed Cat Grant mainly because the Daily Planet felt like a real newsroom with minor but reappearing characters.

I can't argue on that one. "Smart Kids," is one of my least favorite episodes. lol! :wink:

Mine either. But it had Dean Cain do an amazing Clark Kent-to-Superman transition.


Title: Re: L&C - Season One
Post by: jayce77 on March 08, 2011, 12:09:04 AM
I enjoyed Lois and Clark as a run. It was just dumb, yuk yuk soapy fun. Dean Cain could'nt act his way outa a box, but I did especially like the first season, the freshness of the cast and the stories, that being said I think it started to jump the shark not that long into season 2.


Title: Re: L&C - Season One
Post by: India Ink on March 08, 2011, 11:16:23 AM
The first season might've been the best season, but I thought Justin Whalin fit the role of Jimmy better when he took over the part. I've always wondered why Jimmy seems to be cast with older actors--he should be a teen! Whalin maybe wasn't a teen, but he played younger.

Also, while Cat Grant was a pretty good character I never warmed to Tracy Scoggins, so I wasn't sorry to see her go.

And I felt like Lex was overexposed. it would have been good to have John Shea in a recurring role, but I didn't want him to be a constant presence.

It did seem like the budget was being cut in the second season, with these cast changes, and the scripts got progressively worse as the series went on. But I thought Cain and Hatcher became more comfortable in their roles in the second season. So in a lot of ways this was a better season than the first.


Title: Re: L&C - Season One
Post by: jayce77 on March 09, 2011, 05:24:55 PM
The first season might've been the best season, but I thought Justin Whalin fit the role of Jimmy better when he took over the part. I've always wondered why Jimmy seems to be cast with older actors--he should be a teen! Whalin maybe wasn't a teen, but he played younger.

I agree somewhat. I liked both of'em actually. They had there annoying moments. But that was the show.


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Also, while Cat Grant was a pretty good character I never warmed to Tracy Scoggins, so I wasn't sorry to see her go.

I don't really remember Tracy Scoggins ( been so long since I watched this show ) But although Kat was hot, I never really understood her as a character? Are why she was there?

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And I felt like Lex was overexposed. it would have been good to have John Shea in a recurring role, but I didn't want him to be a constant presence.

I love him as lex. As I remember, there were many episodes in the first season that he was not a big part of. I liked his overshawdowing presence to everything, it gave the show a center and nicely tied everything together. I certain prefer it to the ill concieved and unfocused season's after that.

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It did seem like the budget was being cut in the second season, with these cast changes, and the scripts got progressively worse as the series went on. But I thought Cain and Hatcher became more comfortable in their roles in the second season. So in a lot of ways this was a better season than the first.


I do remember the 2nd season's effects not being as good as the first ( not that they were always terriffic ) And Yes I do remember them seeming more at ease with each other as the show went on. Overall I remember the 1st season being the best, but that did'nt mean that every detail was better.