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Title: Questions re: Superman of 2965
Post by: Captain Kal on August 18, 2005, 03:26:33 PM
Did the numbers '5477' of his Klar Ken T5477 alter ego have any significance?  Either in the fictional universe or in the real world?

He recalls how several of his predecessors lost their secret identities due to carelessness.  How was it explained how the Superman line continued to use the Kent-like last name after those multiple revelations?


Title: Re: Questions re: Superman of 2965
Post by: Klar Ken T5477 on August 19, 2005, 11:38:05 AM
Its not KenT. Its Ken as the last name with his ID number, I think.


Title: Re: Questions re: Superman of 2965
Post by: Captain Kal on August 19, 2005, 04:11:06 PM
Thanks, Klar.  I had a feeling you'd be the only one with insights on this one.

It does seem odd and asking for trouble that the later descendants still used variants of the old Kent name, such as Kantor and Ken T5477.  If they really wanted to fix their predecessors' mistakes, they should have gone with a completely different last name.

I guess '5477' was just a random set of numbers with no significance.  May 4, 1977 was long after the story publication so that's out.  April 4, 1977, ditto.  5=E, 4=D, 7=G, 7=G => EDGG ...  That seems like nonsense.  Adding 'T' to make 'TEDGG' seems only marginally more like a name but still has no significance.

I guess not everything has a hidden meaning in the supermythos.


Title: Re: Questions re: Superman of 2965
Post by: TELLE on August 19, 2005, 06:02:28 PM
Two 7s upside down are two LLs :D


Title: Re: Questions re: Superman of 2965
Post by: Klar Ken T5477 on August 19, 2005, 06:44:02 PM
Right you are TeLLe. :D


Title: Re: Questions re: Superman of 2965
Post by: Captain Kal on August 20, 2005, 08:37:27 PM
*slaps own forehead* D'oh!

Well done, Telle!

Now, we just have to find some hidden meaning for the remaining '54'.

C'mon, impress me again. :)


Title: Re: Questions re: Superman of 2965
Post by: dto on August 21, 2005, 12:33:43 AM
Quote from: "Captain Kal"
*slaps own forehead* D'oh!

Well done, Telle!

Now, we just have to find some hidden meaning for the remaining '54'.

C'mon, impress me again. :)


"
54" upside down is "hs", maybe?   :wink:


Title: Re: Questions re: Superman of 2965
Post by: RedSunOfKrypton on August 21, 2005, 03:15:38 AM
Actually it's more like bS :P


Title: Re: Questions re: Superman of 2965
Post by: Captain Kal on August 27, 2005, 08:52:29 AM
I think I finally solved the '54' meaning.

Reverse it to '45'.

Look at the intro page for the "The Superman of 2965" story.

(http://superman.nu/tales3/2965/1.gif)

According to the tombstone of Superman I, he was born in 1920.  That would make him 45 at the time of the "The Superman of 2965" story.

'54' is '45' backwards so it's Superman's supposed age in 1965 if he was born in 1920 as that tombstone states.


Title: Re: Questions re: Superman of 2965
Post by: Uncle Mxy on August 27, 2005, 12:13:41 PM
The possibilities exists that we could either be

a) over-interpreting.  It could be a totally random number, and that we're wasting far more cycles on it than Edmond Hamilton did

-or-

b) under-interpreting.  It might be based off Superman canon.  It could be, say, Hamilton address or last 4 digits of his phone # at the time, or a nod to one of his other works, or perhaps his more-prominent wife's stories (Leigh Brackett, who did a little sci-fi story called The Empire Strikes Back...)

If I had to take a swag at it, I'd say "5477" is "5uperman 4 7ois 7ane".