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Title: Jack Kirby's "Captain Victory!"
Post by: Great Rao on August 21, 2005, 09:19:49 AM
PLUG:

Jack Kirby's "Captain Victory" was one of my favorite comic book titles back when it was being pubished in the 1980s.  I've always liked Kirby and his ideas about the nature of humanity, life, and anti-life.  "Captain Victory" wasn't very popular when it came out, but it seemed to me like all his concepts came to a head in the short-lived series.

TwoMorrows publishing has apparently recently published a graphic novel collection of the uninked pencils of Kirby's original proposed "Captain Victory" graphic novel, before the story was chopped up into separate issues.

It's only available via mail order right here (http://twomorrows.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=188) and it's only eight bucks, shipping and handling included.

(http://twomorrows.com/images/large/specials/cvictory_LRG.jpg) (http://twomorrows.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=188)

My copy is on order.

:s:


Title: Re: Jack Kirby's "Captain Victory!"
Post by: TELLE on August 21, 2005, 11:58:07 PM
Cool.  Kirby pencils are great (I love that "Graphite Edition"!)!

Captain Victory has some of Kirby's most far-out concepts, period.  Iw ill definitely check this out.


Title: Re: Jack Kirby's "Captain Victory!"
Post by: nightwing on August 22, 2005, 08:51:41 AM
Look at the size of those guns!  Those Image artists are pikers!  :lol:

I'll check this out.  The world needs more superheroes with Beatle haircuts...


Title: Re: Jack Kirby's "Captain Victory!"
Post by: Klar Ken T5477 on August 22, 2005, 10:12:23 AM
I have few Cap Victory comics myself with some heavy handed inking.

These are ALL JK's pencvils???? No D. Bruce whatchamacall it?


Title: Re: Jack Kirby's "Captain Victory!"
Post by: Super Monkey on August 22, 2005, 11:52:14 AM
This was a very important milestone in comics, as it was the 1st ever creator own comic.

This is also the book in which all the characters talk in that crazy Kirby Speak!

"Is there a Goozlebobber somewhere in mid-flight above your area?? You won't know until his crew contracts the dread galactic condition known as -- COSMIC DIARRHEA!"

"That alien pariah can give one a mental hernia! Warts! CLOSURE OF THE PORES -- and an insatiable desire for ACUTE DEPRESSION!"

"What? WHAT? I say 'Bull-Chips' in your cereal, sir!"


Yes, those are real quotes!  :lol:


Title: Re: Jack Kirby's "Captain Victory!"
Post by: Super Monkey on August 22, 2005, 12:29:00 PM
On a more serious note, here is a good read:

Kirby and Goliath:
The Fight for Jack Kirby's Marvel Artwork

http://tcj.com/aa02ss/n_marvel.html


Title: Re: Jack Kirby's "Captain Victory!"
Post by: Great Rao on August 22, 2005, 04:51:31 PM
Klar, all the writing and all the artwork is by Jack Kirby - just like the  (13 or so?) issues of the original comic book series.

And for those who like's Kirby's dialogue, this graphic novel also includes Jack's Captain Victory screenplay, which should be chock-full of such stuff.

:s:


Title: Re: Jack Kirby's "Captain Victory!"
Post by: Klar Ken T5477 on August 22, 2005, 07:32:04 PM
Thanks Rao - Hooo Boy - a King Kirby screenplay that's ALL  "happening right NOW!" so I "should NOT THINK - JUST BUY IT!!!!!"

 :twisted:

I love it when Jack's brain explodes.


Title: Re: Jack Kirby's "Captain Victory!"
Post by: TELLE on August 23, 2005, 06:41:47 PM
Quote from: "Super Monkey"
This was a very important milestone in comics, as it was the 1st ever creator own comic.


Dubious claim, no?

What about the Spirit?  Undergrounds?  Newspaper strips?  Graphic novels?

Maybe first comic book sized superhero comic that was creator owned?


Title: Re: Jack Kirby's "Captain Victory!"
Post by: Super Monkey on August 23, 2005, 07:44:55 PM
Quote from: "TELLE"
Quote from: "Super Monkey"
This was a very important milestone in comics, as it was the 1st ever creator own comic.


Dubious claim, no?

What about the Spirit?  Undergrounds?  Newspaper strips?  Graphic novels?

Maybe first comic book sized superhero comic that was creator owned?


Superhero comic, what else could he be?

The Spirit ...

As Eisner reveals in his interview with Tom Heintjes for The Spirit - The Origin Years #3:

"... I agreed let (Everett) Arnold copyright it in his name rather than mine, but with the stipulation my ownership was acknowledged in the contract, and that at any time the partnership terminated, all rights to The Spirit would revert to me."

Everett "Busy" Arnold was the publisher of Quality Comics, hence the reprints of Spirit sections in Police Comics. When The Spirit series came to an end in 1952, Arnold sold the rights to Eisner for the token sum of $1000.