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Title: Previewing JSA #82 Earth-2 Superman Issue Post by: Super Monkey on December 02, 2005, 02:13:06 AM Here is a 4 page preview, which will confuse you and put a smile on your face :)
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/JSA/JSA82Pre.htm Title: Re: Previewing JSA #82 Earth-2 Superman Issue Post by: nightwing on December 02, 2005, 08:20:06 AM The earlier preview at the same site had some pages of E-2 Superman and Batman in action, too. Presumably a past adventure (unless Bruce is returning from the grave).
Just putting the pieces together here, it looks like in the wake of the new Crisis, we're getting a continuity where E-2 Supes and Lois will have existed in the Golden Age even if they aren't still around in the present. Which, I'm guessing, means the JSA book and related characters are moving over to a new or restored "Earth-2." Which would be great. OR this could just be an Elseworlds-type tale I guess. Either way, Perez is drawing so I'm in. Title: Re: Previewing JSA #82 Earth-2 Superman Issue Post by: dto on December 02, 2005, 12:32:18 PM Hmm.. looks like the Introduction sequence between Power Girl and Ma Hunkel take place during Infinite Crisis. ("Worlds live. Worlds die. You decide.") And Ma Hunkel remembers that Hippolyta was Wonder Woman back in "the old days" -- a Post-Crisis retcon.
Hmm... how many fans are confident Power Girl will make the RIGHT decision? And right for WHOM? :shock: Title: Re: Previewing JSA #82 Earth-2 Superman Issue Post by: Great Rao on December 02, 2005, 12:35:26 PM Maybe DC will have various 900 numbers that you have to call to vote for which universes and continuities you want to survive. :roll:
I don't think it's clear yet whether DC will be a multiverse, or a new post-crisis universe with pre-crisis elements merged back in. And if the determination of what gets merged back in is up to Power Girl, then it looks like E-2 Superman didn't survive and that she is now the most powerful hero(ine) in the DCU. :s: Title: Re: Previewing JSA #82 Earth-2 Superman Issue Post by: nightwing on December 02, 2005, 01:08:30 PM Quote I don't think it's clear yet whether DC will be a multiverse, or a new post-crisis universe with pre-crisis elements merged back in. And if the determination of what gets merged back in is up to Power Girl, then it looks like E-2 Superman didn't survive and that she is now the most powerful hero(ine) in the DCU. But old Ma Hunkel indicates she remembers a Lois Lane from her own generation, and this journal is an artifact of that time. Therefore on whatever world this story takes place, there was a Superman during World War II. And unless DC can think of a good explanation for how a *second* one can show up decades later, I think this story has to happen on a parallel Earth. The other possibility, of course, is that even the framing sequence (with PG) will be set in the past, a sort of "Untold Tale of Earth-2" from before the first Crisis. Of course PG's costume didn't look like that then...hmm... Title: Re: Previewing JSA #82 Earth-2 Superman Issue Post by: TELLE on December 02, 2005, 01:20:04 PM I will never read all of the booksinvolved in this new Crisis but I'm tempted to buy that Perez thing out of nostalgia --that and because I love E2. Looks fun. Hopefully someone here will eventually spoil the entire Infinite Crisis and reboot thing for me. DC will never repair the damage they did anyway.
Has Paul Levitz written E2 stories before? The Perez interview associated with that preview had something educational for me: details about Perez' cut on Teen Titans merch. He gets 10% of everything DC gets. Nice. Who knew those 3 characters from Teen Titans would ever be pop culture products? Quote Speaking of the Titans cartoon, not only does it provide Perez a revenue stream (“Basically, whatever DC gets, Marv and I each get ten percent. It gets to a nice amount when you start talking about toys, the upcoming videogame, and of course, it’s pro-rated, depending on the characters we created, but that’s pretty much everybody except Robin and Beast Boy”), but it’s also earned him a legion of new fans. “I can go to virtually any grammar school in the country and say that I co-created, Cyborg, Raven, and Starfire, and I’m a rock star to a whole new generation of kids, who look at me, wide-eyed, with open mouths,” Perez said. “When I used to do appearances in schools or other non-comic specific function, I would usually say I wrote and drew Wonder Woman, even though Wonder Woman’s sales nowhere equaled the New Teen Titans, but more people knew who she was. Now, I just say, Teen Titans, and most people know what I’m talking about, or, if they don’t, their kids can tell them. Who gets 10 percent of Robin and Beast Boy merch? Who created Beast Boy? Title: Re: Previewing JSA #82 Earth-2 Superman Issue Post by: TELLE on December 02, 2005, 01:27:00 PM Ah, he wrote the JSA comics in the 70s:
Quote Paul Levitz, who helmed the Justice Society’s All-Star Comics series in the 1970s in a series of team adventures that rank right alongside his Legion of Super-Heroes tales as some of the best books in his impressive résumé Title: Re: Previewing JSA #82 Earth-2 Superman Issue Post by: nightwing on December 02, 2005, 01:32:35 PM Quote Who gets 10 percent of Robin and Beast Boy merch? Who created Beast Boy? That would be Arnold Drake, who introduced him as "Beast Boy" back in Doom Patrol #99. (http://comics.org/graphics/covers/1622/400/1622_4_099.jpg) ...though I'd be astonished if he ever got any royalties off it! As for Robin, Bob Kane and Jerry Robinson duked it out in interviews for decades over who created him. As they used to say on the Tootsie Pop commercials, "the world may never know!" Title: Re: Previewing JSA #82 Earth-2 Superman Issue Post by: Anonymous on December 02, 2005, 02:33:37 PM i think ma hunkle remebers the crisis as do most of the people from earth-2 now... that way we can ship todays current JSA of to the old age home... i mean earth 2.
Title: Re: Previewing JSA #82 Earth-2 Superman Issue Post by: forgottenhero on December 02, 2005, 02:43:16 PM Quote from: "nightwing" But old Ma Hunkel indicates she remembers a Lois Lane from her own generation, and this journal is an artifact of that time. No, she just recognizes the name "Lois Lane," as do many people in the current DCU. If she really remembered the Lois Lane of Earth-2, she wouldn't be shocked that Power Girl and Lane were "close." Title: Re: Previewing JSA #82 Earth-2 Superman Issue Post by: TELLE on December 02, 2005, 10:43:42 PM Quote from: "nightwing" Quote Who gets 10 percent of Robin and Beast Boy merch? Who created Beast Boy? That would be Arnold Drake, who introduced him as "Beast Boy" back in Doom Patrol #99. ... ...though I'd be astonished if he ever got any royalties off it! As for Robin, Bob Kane and Jerry Robinson duked it out in interviews for decades over who created him. As they used to say on the Tootsie Pop commercials, "the world may never know!" My money's on Robinson after reading Jones' book. It's a crying shame that Drake cannot benefit from the same arrangement that Wolfman and Perez enjoy, especially since the time that their New Teen Titans was promulgated was basically still the dark ages as far as creator's rights go. Drake is still with us (and quite feisty by all accounts) and it stinks that he has no legal claim to such a popular character. Title: Re: Previewing JSA #82 Earth-2 Superman Issue Post by: nightwing on December 03, 2005, 09:22:37 PM Quote It's a crying shame that Drake cannot benefit from the same arrangement that Wolfman and Perez enjoy, especially since the time that their New Teen Titans was promulgated was basically still the dark ages as far as creator's rights go. Drake is still with us (and quite feisty by all accounts) and it stinks that he has no legal claim to such a popular character. In fact, if I remember correctly, Drake was a ringleader of a strike by DC writers in the late 60s to get some of the things today's writers get as a matter of course. He and the others were summarily sacked for their troubles. Title: Re: Previewing JSA #82 Earth-2 Superman Issue Post by: Gangbuster on December 05, 2005, 07:32:36 PM Quote from: "Great Rao" Maybe DC will have various 900 numbers that you have to call to vote for which universes and continuities you want to survive. :roll: :s: Bring it on! I think we have the votes, and the willpower. |