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Title: Costume found and I can't ID it.
Post by: stupidmonkey413 on February 02, 2006, 01:08:56 AM
Browsing the net tonight I found a costume for Supergirl I can't fit into my memory.

http://supergirl.the-imperium.com/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=58

That's the link to the wallpaper. Its the costume on the bottom 2nd from the left. I really have no clue but it will probably be obvious when someone points it out.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Costume found and I can't ID it.
Post by: dto on February 02, 2006, 04:21:59 AM
That's from the Peter David "Supergirl" series.  Gorilla Grodd brought out Supergirl's "Dark Side" in Issue #4 (a "Final Night" tie-in -- the first of many DC crossover events that disrupted Peter David's storyline).  See this for more details:

http://supergirl.astraldream.net/costumes.html


Title: Re: Costume found and I can't ID it.
Post by: Superman of America on June 05, 2006, 01:10:46 PM
Jim Lee is the man! That Supergirl wallpaper is niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!


Title: Re: Costume found and I can't ID it.
Post by: Supergrl5013 on June 06, 2006, 10:52:50 PM
Quote from: "Superman of America"
Jim Lee is the man! That Supergirl wallpaper is niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!
very niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice. lol..i like Jim Lee's work...he's really good at it!


Title: Re: Costume found and I can't ID it.
Post by: DoctorZero on June 08, 2006, 10:37:55 PM
It does look nice.  It was one of the better Supergirl costumes.


Title: Re: Costume found and I can't ID it.
Post by: Vic George 2K6 on August 05, 2006, 08:03:17 PM
My favorite Supergirl costumes are:
1. The Pre-Crisis Supergirl's late 1970s costume
2. The Post-Crisis Supergirl's first costume (before switching to the WB animated version's white crop top)
3. The Future Age Superman's sister Kara's costume (from the Dominus/Kismet story arc of 1998).

My least favorite Supergirl costumes are:
1. The Pre-Crisis Supergirl's 1985 costume (makes her look too much like a high school cheerleader)
2. The WB animated version Supergirl's first costume, which became the Post-Crisis Supergirl's last costume)
3. The current Supergirl's costume, even with the addition of a Captain Marvel Junior-like cape.


Title: Re: Costume found and I can't ID it.
Post by: dto on August 06, 2006, 01:06:58 AM
Vic George 2K6, your third favorite Supergirl costume was actually worn by the Earth-1 Kara Zor-El prior to the classic '70s "blouse and hotpants" costume (your #1 choice).  The "mod" long gloves, hipboots and miniskirt outfit was created by Wonder Woman, during her depowered "Diana Prince" days when she ran a dress shop and fought crime as DC's version of Emma Peel.   :wink:   In reality, this costume was submitted by Barbara Reader of New Hyde Park, New York -- several costumes Kara wore in her Adventure Comics days came from fan solicitations.

For a scene of Diana's dress shop at the debut of this particular costume:

http://www.comictreadmill.com/CTMBlogarchives/2004/2004_Monthly/2004_09.php
(September 9, 2004 entry)

For more Supergirl costumes (though some images were "borrowed" from this website's own Supergirl costume section):

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=55715


Title: Re: Costume found and I can't ID it.
Post by: Vic George 2K6 on August 09, 2006, 09:04:50 PM
Paul Ryan certainly made the costume look good on the Future Age Supergirl, probably better than how it looked on the Pre-Crisis Supergirl.


Title: Re: Costume found and I can't ID it.
Post by: dto on August 10, 2006, 12:55:32 AM
Vic George, I have to agree since I never particularly liked Mike Sekowsky's artwork, and Jack Abel's inking seemed a bit heavy-handed.  Unfortunately for poor Kara, Sekowsky was writer, editor AND penciller during these Adventure Comics years, and he performed major character abuse to her in all THREE areas.   Despite eventually getting her own solo title, Supergirl never really recovered, and when that first book flopped after only ten issues, Kara's standing further suffered.  :(


Title: Re: Costume found and I can't ID it.
Post by: Uncle Mxy on August 10, 2006, 12:39:10 PM
Check out Ed Benes' Supergirl(s) in Many Happy Returns.

It's a lot better than waify anorexia Supergirlica.


Title: Re: Costume found and I can't ID it.
Post by: DoctorZero on September 10, 2006, 05:45:40 PM
I can't understand how Mike Sekowski got the assignment, considering his he destroyed the Metal Men during his tenure as editor, writer and artist.  To follow up as the same combo on Adventure comics indicates to me that he must have known someone at DC and has some influence.  It certainly wasn't based on talent as an editor or a writer.

I never cared for his artwork either but I know Julius Schwartz liked it and kept him employed.  But his talents and an editor and writer left much to be desired.


Title: Re: Costume found and I can't ID it.
Post by: dto on September 11, 2006, 02:05:23 AM
Doctor Zero, I strongly recommend the recent "Back Issue #17", published by Two Morrows Press.  (See www.twomorrows.com )  There's an extensive article covering Kara Zor-El's career from "Adventure Comics" to "Crisis on Infinite Earths #7", with insider details on why DC kept changing Supergirl... and finally killed her off.   :cry:  

There's also an examination of the still-born "Double Comics", which was to combine the suddenly-cancelled Superboy and Supergirl books until DC decided that neither character would exist after Crisis and the Byrne reboot.   :evil:

According to the Supergirl article, when Mort Weisinger retired in 1970, his tightly-held control of all the Super-titles were divvied up among the DC staff.  Mike Sekowsky was apparently chosen because his work in "Metal Men" and "Wonder Woman" had made these characters more "human", and it was hoped he would also work similar magic on Supergirl.  

Granted, I understand you dislike Sekowsky's handling of the Metal Men, and the depowered mod "Diana Prince" era was completely alien to the "traditional" Wonder Woman mold, but remember this was a common theme in the Seventies -- more "relevant" issues (racial and women equality, the war on poverty and drugs, pollution, etc.), less costumed supervillians and more "ordinary" criminals or aliens, focusing more on a hero's private life and personal problems, and so on.  So rendering Supergirl's powers "on-again, off-again" was in line with Wonder Woman turning into DC's "Emma Peel", and Superman (temporarilly) getting his powers halved.  However in Supergirl's case, the execution was clumsy and the superpowered armature Kara had to wear under her costume in case her powers conked out again (ALWAYS at an inconvenient time) was even more ill-conceived.

Then again, Sekowsky also created Nastalthia "Nasty" Luthor, who despite her continuity-jarring origin (Lex had ANOTHER sister?) has become one of Kara's most-remembered antagonists.  And Nasty has just been rebooted in "All-Star Superman #5".  So I'll give Sekowsky some credit.