Superman Through the Ages! Forum

Infinite Crisis #5 Crisis Counseling:

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=3ba21bd3a6a106060afb630bf05c6b53&threadid=61342

From now on, whenever something doesn't strike me well in the DC world, past or present, its because soemeone is "pounding on the walls of reality" and shifting things around... 8)

hehehe, it's the lamest excuse ever for crappy writing.

"See Bryne isn't a crappy writer, he was stinking it up on purpose to further the storyline I just made up."

ok, actual spoilers:


Superboy-Prime returns with the Anti-Monitor suit. Thus lame action figure.

There was an Earth-8 and these were the people from there:

Breach, Kyle Rayner, jason Rusch (Firestorm), and Helena Bertinelli (Huntress) were from Earth 8. Prior to the original Crisis. Breach is/was Earth 8's Capt Atom.
 
Lois Lane of Earth-2 dies... Superman of Earth-2 loses it and Iron Age Superman is in deep trouble as he gets to try and clam down E2-Superman, and gets his butt kicked.

Wonder Woman speaks to her E2 counterpart, and the Golden Age Wonder Woman dies.

Sliver Age Flash returned again and went away again.

Alex Luthor master plan is to bring back the multiverse, then mix and match to make the perfect Earth. But he only brings back the Earths in the same universe, that can't be good.

What's really sad is that  "One Year Later" is already underway (and off to a promising start, at least for Batman), and Heap Big Event is way behind schedule.

By the time IC ends, it's going to be mighty anti-climactic.

I picked up the issue today and was anxious for Super Monkey to post his comments/review on the issue.

Very odd occurances in this issue.  Alexander Luthor's plan seems obviously flawed, to say the least.
How did he recreate all the earths?  And why are they all in the same universe?  
Now, with Batman, great move bringing back Comissioner Gordon.  I like the idea of Jim Gordon and Batman working together to make Gotham a better place once again.

You'd be amazed by how many Iron Age fanboys are unhappy that Gordon's back as the commish. "Why does everything have to move backward? Why can't we leave Gordon, Bullock, and Alfred behind and bring in new characters? We want to move forward, not backward!"

Meanwhile, the classic Batman fans are happy to see the old guard back in the saddle. So I guess we're seeing phase one of Batman getting his groove back on. By the way, IC #6 is supposed to settle the official origins of Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. Let's hope most of the Byrne/Miller-era stuff gets swept out.

It won't matter if the Byrne origin is swept under the rug or not. If Superman continues to be written like he has the past 20 years, then the stories will still be bad.

IMO, all you need to know about Superman's origin is summed up on the first page of All-Star Superman #1.

I'm not at all surprised to see the Iron Age fans unhappy.  However, this IS Batman, with Comissioner Gordon and Alfred in the strip.  The scenes between Gordon and Batman brought a smile to my face;  to see these two friends working together was a great step in the right direction for the character.

I wasn't just talking about the origin. I meant the Byrne ERA. Pretty much everything that happened from 1986-now. I know the quality of the stories will hinge on other matters.

Gordon and Alfred will be gone just as soon as some writer comes up with better and more interesting characters.  In other words, NEVER.

I look at recent Batman tales as I do the Byrne/Jurgens era of Superman; a passing phase.  Sooner or later, everything comes back to the version most of the world knows.  In the end, Byrne's origin, the proto-Supergirl, businessman Lex, a Gordon-less Gotham, etc are just aberrations like Superman's long hair and Batman's brief-less costume...they are experimentations that play out...some sooner, some later...and are then abandoned.

On the other hand, there are good changes in the DCU mythos, like Dick Grayson as Nightwing and Wally West as the Flash. Even the marriage of Clark Kent and Lois Lane, despite being a bad story of the Jurgens era, was later well explored by Loeb and Kelly. Emerald Twilight, Hal as Parallax - and Kyle Rayner as the last Green Lantern - would be aberrations, according to your view, and I felt the same way when that happened. However, I've grow to accept that Kyle could be a good character, and Hal Jordan could adopt a new role in the cosmic side of the DCU. So I think returning him to Green Lantern of Earth, something I used to fight for, was a move backward.

dick grayson of earth-1 was already nightwing pre-crisis.

Wow! Now THAT's a super power!  

"Hello!"
THUD!

ROTFL!!! :lol:

Forget that power - Beppo's posts are in YEARS now. Heck WW2 just ended for the big lug. ;)

Now that's aa-maaz-ing - who knew super-chimps could type so fast wthout spell check???!!!! :wink:

(http://www.eapcrackerbarrel.com/images/confusedMonkey.jpg)HUH?

OOPs! I get it now..

(http://www.apemuseum.com/images/ApeExploitation-evil-close.jpg)

I'm impressed by Beppo's post count; but I'm also impressed by the members who have been participating for something like, say, 5 years but still have a post count in the double digits.  Takin' it slow, easy, and relaxed...  the "Low Rider" approach.

:s:

detailed review

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=61722

Those reviews are very good.  I like how they cover the entire issue pretty much page by page.

I just read it...and now it seems like every other "summer crossover," ever.

Stuff like, "Read ION, the awesome new comic of awesomeness!"

"Who has the Scarab chosen NOW???!?!?!"

"Who the heck are these eight people? Pick up the new comic THE EIGHT PEOPLE on shelves next month..."

and so on. These new characters never seem to last. Whatever happened to Argus? Anima? Waverider? Monarch? Valiant Comics?

When it's all said and done, people are still going to be reading the same comics. So they'd better be good...