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Title: Awesome Batman Website
Post by: Super Monkey on March 28, 2006, 07:26:53 PM
It's in spanish, so all of you non-spanish speaking folks will have to translate it, but even so if you are a Batman fan, you can't miss this site with it's awesome graphics and cool goodies and images to gawk at.

http://www.batmania.com.ar


Title: Re: Awesome Batman Website
Post by: Klar Ken T5477 on March 28, 2006, 09:57:48 PM
Perfect place to say RIDE BAT HOMBRE RIDE~


Title: Re: Awesome Batman Website
Post by: DoctorZero on March 28, 2006, 10:22:25 PM
It looks great.


Title: Re: Awesome Batman Website
Post by: nightwing on March 29, 2006, 07:52:26 AM
That site is run by Martin Zamorano, a terrifically talented Argentinian Adam West afficianado.  And a really nice guy besides.  He posts semi-regularly at the 1966 Batman Message Boards and his English is pretty good, so I'm sure he'd appreciate any kind words if you want to visit him there or drop him a line using the "contact" link at his site.

Adam West rules!  :D


Title: Re: Awesome Batman Website
Post by: JulianPerez on March 29, 2006, 09:51:24 AM
What was it that Roger Ebert once said - Batman actors are hired on the basis of their chins? Looking at Adam West's prominent, heroic jaw, it's easy to see where Ebert would be right on that.

Seriously, though, this website is very interesting. For one thing, apparently, King Tut and Egghead had a basis in the comic books - something I was entirely unaware of. It was great to read praise for the brilliant Victor Buono, however, who was never invited to be in BATMAN: THE MOVIE along with the others, but who supposedly was the all-time favorite villain of screenwriter Stanley Ralph Ross. Nice to know other people appreciated Buono as well.

Greatest quote by Victor Buono ever: "Batman let me do something every actor wants to do, but is never allowed: overact." Shades of Shatner!

One thing the website does not answer, that I've always wondered about is this: why is it that the Batman tv-show never used Two-Face? Maybe none of the glamorous Hollywood crowd that love to overact and slum as Batvillains would agree to playing a disfigured type. Or maybe they figured Two-Face was too grotesque...even by the terrifyingly low standards of the Batfoes.

Little known connection between the Adam West Batman television show and Latin America:

Cesar Romero is the illegitimate grandson of Cuban patriot and poet Jose Marti. In 1880, Jose Marti lived in a boarding house in New York City friendly to Cuban exiles and revolutionaries run by, Carmen Miyares de Mantilla, a place Marti spent several months while saving money to bring his wife and children from South America. Carmen Miyares de Mantilla later gave birth to a Maria Miyares, baptized in Brooklyn with Marti as Godfather. Marti provided for Maria's education. Later, Maria Miyares married a Cesar Romero, among whose children included the Clown Prince of Crime himself.

Read all about it, here:

http://www.historyofcuba.com/history/funfacts/CesarRom.htm


Title: Re: Awesome Batman Website
Post by: Klar Ken T5477 on March 29, 2006, 12:12:11 PM
I have Bats 66 opening title wallpaper and I am one happy Bat Fan right about now. :D


Title: Re: Awesome Batman Website
Post by: TELLE on April 04, 2006, 12:41:47 PM
The sound effects page is awesome:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.batmania.com.ar%2Fpaginas%2Fserie_onomatopeyas.htm&langpair=es%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools


Title: Re: Awesome Batman Website
Post by: Superman of America on April 08, 2006, 11:01:10 AM
Baterrific!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Awesome Batman Website
Post by: Gernot on July 17, 2006, 07:54:30 PM
Julian, I think the reason why Two-Face was never used (purely speculation on my part here) is because he may have been thought to be too scary for 1966 audiences.  

We DID sort of get him in a way, though.  They gave us False Face, who may've been Two Face's TV counterpart!  :D


Title: Re: Awesome Batman Website
Post by: MatterEaterLad on July 17, 2006, 08:40:28 PM
Kind of tough and expensive facial make-up for the time, even the rigid appliances that were used, for example, for the Tellurites in Star Trek didn't have to incorporate the mouth...using a "False Face" was probably a lot easier.


Title: Re: Awesome Batman Website
Post by: Uncle Mxy on July 17, 2006, 09:29:34 PM
Quote from: "Gernot"
Julian, I think the reason why Two-Face was never used (purely speculation on my part here) is because he may have been thought to be too scary for 1966 audiences.

Two-Face was too gruesome for the sci-fi Bat-Mitey plots of the late 50s/60s, and hadn't been in comics for a long time at the point that the TV show came into play.  It was Denny O'Neil who revived him in the 1970s.

For 60s-era villains they managed to miss in the series, Catman comes to mind.


Title: Re: Awesome Batman Website
Post by: MatterEaterLad on July 17, 2006, 10:31:06 PM
I ain't buying that for a second....any villain could have been made palatable to TV audiences at the time...just write it that way, like they did...


Title: Re: Awesome Batman Website
Post by: Gernot on July 18, 2006, 07:39:13 AM
Yeah, especially considering The Riddler hadn't been seen since the late '40's, and he became the first foe to face Batman and Robin in the TV show!  

I'm sure he'd've had more Season 2 episodes had Frank Gorshin not refused to play him again until the second episode of the third season.


Title: Re: Awesome Batman Website
Post by: nightwing on July 18, 2006, 08:19:05 AM
I don't think Two-Face would have really fit in with the feel of the show.  I mean, consider the other villains and their schticks:

JOKER: A prancing, foppish pouf in clown make-up.  Perfect for a camp project.

RIDDLER: A guy who thinks he's a genius but can't do anything without sending Batman clues first.  Wonderfully insane premise for a wonderfully insane show.

CATWOMAN: All curves and sex appeal, pitted against the most sexually repressed hero on TV.  Lots of potential.

PENGUIN: A waddling "master criminal" who by no stretch of the imagination could EVER be perceived as a physical threat to Batman.  (The TV show might in fact be the only place this villain ever did work well.)

Now into this stew let us consider adding this guy....

TWO FACE: A mentally tortured ex-District Attorney driven to criminal insanity when half his face is destroyed by acid burns.

It doesn't take an Aaron Spelling to see which ideas fit the premise of the show and which did not.  Now I'm not saying you couldn't have fun with a guy nutty enough to decide everything with a coin toss, but I imagine no matter how you spin "driven mad by disfigurement" it never quite comes up "fun."  Plus, having an establishment, law enforcement figure driven to crime runs counter to the underlying theme of the show; that criminals are deviants who, Batman believes, may somehow be brought around to the side of reason and virtue, but no one is ever seen going in the other direction.

On the other hand, everyone on the side of law and order in the show is dull, square and not overly bright, while the villains are ingenious, hilarious and above all fun.  Maybe it would have been fun to see a DA say, "I've been a straight-laced square long enough...now to have some fun!"  In fact, such a character could have evolved into the thematic arch-nemesis of Batman.  But that would have been a bit deeper than the writing on that show ever managed to go.

Besides, there probably weren't many famous actors willing to appear in "acid scarred" make-up.  A fake nose or clown face is one thing, but making yourself hideous is not something that usually appeals to the actor's ego.  Especially when you're talking about aging ex-matinee idols the likes of Caesar Romero, Van Johnson or Rudy Vallee.


Title: Re: Awesome Batman Website
Post by: MatterEaterLad on July 18, 2006, 09:04:34 AM
8)

Well, they could have just ignored his past, for example, the Joker can be Cesaer Romano, or they can make him the acid burned maniac like in Tim Burton's movie...


Title: Re: Awesome Batman Website
Post by: Gernot on July 18, 2006, 09:37:21 AM
Also, look at Two Face's "replacement!"  False Face had his ENTIRE face covered up in such a way that NO one could tell what he really looked like!  

A little bit of make-up, and Two Face would be SET.  They could make him into a semi-tragic figure like Mr. Freeze, whom Batman wanted to help escape his ice suit, or King Tut, who was always ashamed he'd gone back to his evil ways after a bump on his noggin.  

Two Face could VERY easily have fit in on the 1966 TV show.  ;)


Title: Re: Awesome Batman Website
Post by: Uncle Mxy on July 18, 2006, 10:03:35 AM
Quote from: "Gernot"
Yeah, especially considering The Riddler hadn't been seen since the late '40's, and he became the first foe to face Batman and Robin in the TV show!

The Riddler was resuscitated shortly before the show.