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Title: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: Russell on April 03, 2006, 04:12:15 PM
If anything can be said about the Silver Age of comics, it's that it gave us some of the most imaginative, fun, original comic book villians ever. That's how I feel about it anyway.

So, hell, name a few of your own... No matter how obscure.  :)

I personally have always and still do love Validus. He was beastly beyond words and the eventual plot device pertaining to him is great to this day. The fact that Validus had Superboy's ticket every time they fought was great too. "He's at least a dozen times as powerful as me!" Superboy said, twice.  :lol:


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: Super Monkey on April 03, 2006, 04:44:12 PM
A few that come to mind:

http://superman.nu/wiki/index.php/Funnyface

http://superman.nu/wiki/index.php/Zha-Vam


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: MatterEaterLad on April 03, 2006, 05:09:21 PM
I was partial to the Perry White persona when he was taken over by alien plants and became "Masterman" and had to be defeated by the little-used White Kryptonite...Action #278...


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: JulianPerez on April 03, 2006, 05:28:52 PM
Does Validus count as an obscure Superman villain? I like him too, but he's arguably not obscure, nor technically, a Superman villain.

He was pretty great, though. He was sympathetic and childlike instead of truly evil, and the way Princess Projectra won her over with kindness was so sweet, it gives you diabetes.

He was a wonderful counterpoint to the total sociopaths that comprised the Fatal Five. Wasn't it creepy the way the Persuader visibly letched after Princess Projectra? People complain that all Mano and the Persuader ever did was fight. Actually, this is perfectly realistic. My brother and I used to get into fistfights over who gets the remote and we don't have half the psychological disorders Mano and the Persuader clearly have.

By that same token, this is why it doesn't bother me when people say that there were no black people on FRIENDS. People like the FRIENDS...*have* no black friends.

Who was it that wrote the story that the Emerald Empress was in reality, controlled by the Emerald Eye of Ekron? That was a really boneheaded idea, because the best thing about the Emerald Empress is how shiver-inducing Evil with a Capital E she was.


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: Russell on April 03, 2006, 05:37:45 PM
Eh, Validus is very obscure outside of Legion/Superboy fans from what I've seen.

And Validus flat out throwing down with the Sun Eater is one of the most hardcore things I've ever seen in comics. Even better is when he gets back into shape and comes back for round two and wins for Projectra, like you said.  :D

I've read almost everything Legion ever and I don't recall any stories where that was revealed. At the very end of Legion vol. 3 it was revealed the Eye had a hold on the Empress and woulden't let her die, among other things, but it wasn't controlling her.

She was evil though. Vanity and egotistical to no end. I still remember when she kept on breaking the bones of Legionaires... Snapping Sun Boy's jaw and all that.

I liked Mano too. Nuking Angtu with his hand, oh man. :lol:


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: JulianPerez on April 03, 2006, 05:59:56 PM
Quote from: "Russell"
I liked Mano too. Nuking Angtu with his hand, oh man. :lol:


NOTE TO SELF: Get OFF of a planet before blowing it up.

It always puzzled me why it is that Mano kept on wearing that spacesuit of his even though he had already blown up his own planet.

Then, in one disturbing moment, I realized why:

He keeps a spacesuit on, because by doing so, he leaves the option open of just blowing up whatever planet he's on.


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: Russell on April 03, 2006, 06:04:37 PM
Heh.  :lol:

Mano, probably my second favorite member of the Fatal Five though. He was fast... I remember he tagged an aware Karate Kid once, and another time these mini rockets were being fired at him in rapid sucession and he touched them all in mid-air.

Post Zero Hour he didn't kill his race, and his origins were all the more tragic. Pretty good stuff.


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: TELLE on April 03, 2006, 06:18:01 PM
Tremble before the might of.....

WHIRLICANE!!!!!!

Master of winds!

http://www.tfz.net/affiche_fiche.php?id=554


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: Russell on April 03, 2006, 06:36:05 PM
The Whirlicane. :lol:

Anyone remember the Infinity Monster? Or the Negative/Positive Monsters?

Supergirl fought all of them in their first and only appearances...


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: Super Monkey on April 03, 2006, 08:34:15 PM
oh, and those flying brains that fought the Super-Pets :)

Then there is that long forgotten Golden Age villian, the killer of hopes, the king of dread, the master of checkers?

The Puzzler

http://superman.nu/wiki/index.php/The_Puzzler


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: JulianPerez on April 04, 2006, 10:28:12 AM
Though this foe is only a Superman enemy by proxy, I personally always loved the concept of the Star-Czar. I mean, he turned out be "Snapper" Carr, confirming my lifelong suspicion that "Snapper" was an evil psycho.

I also always loved Momentus, Master of the Moon (created by Cary Bates) from SUPERMAN #355 (1981), because it involved Isaac Asimov becoming a Super-Villain. Momentus's body is made entirely of oozing orange mud. "Asa Ezaak's" powers are kind of trippy: if you create a liquid a thousand times more succeptible to tides than water, you'd have a being of unlimited power (uh, okay).

And I always loved Karb-Brak from the Andromeda Galaxy, who attempted to destroy Superman because he had an allergy to Superman's superpowers. The hardest thing to possibly do with a villain is create a motivation, and certainly a NEW motivation, and they've certainly got one with Karb-Brak.


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: nightwing on April 04, 2006, 12:32:03 PM
Purple Pile-Driver!!

Okay, so maybe he's no great shakes, but since I own a piece of original art that I think comprises his entire history in print, I can't help but have a fondness for him:

http://nightwing.supermanfan.net/collectibles/swanartpage.htm


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: Sword of Superman on April 04, 2006, 04:30:55 PM
But the Atomic Skull :D of course!


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: celacanto on April 04, 2006, 08:06:51 PM
:shock:  :shock:  :shock: Wow TELLE thanks for the site with character stats for blood of heroes.

I have been doing this for myself for years.  :lol: ,  i thinks its time for start another of my RPG campaings.


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: ShinDangaioh on April 06, 2006, 08:24:09 AM
What was the name of that robot that Supergirl fought that had no legs and fired missles from his chest?

As for a favorite Wonder Woman villian:
http://www.supermanartists.comics.org/silverage/EggFu-WW157.JPG


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: JulianPerez on April 06, 2006, 01:55:00 PM
Quote from: "ShinDangaioh"
What was the name of that robot that Supergirl fought that had no legs and fired missles from his chest?


You're thinking of Matrix-Prime, who first showed up in DARING NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERGIRL #6 (1983). He didn't have legs, but he had these sort of tubes that were leg-jets. And yeah, he was a pretty awesome obscure villain.

Last time we saw him, Brains from the Gang had placed his brains in the body of Matrix-Prime. Intriguingly, Ms. Mesmer from the Gang, and the hypnotic disc on her chest, was recently used as a part of the all-female villain army that was assembled by Circe.

By the way, those weren't missiles that Matrix-Prime fired from his chest. Those were other robots.


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: alschroeder on April 06, 2006, 04:36:53 PM
Super-Menance. An energy-duplicate of Superman,  caused when Kal-El's rocket met a really alien spacecraft, raised by criminals, he turned himself into pure energy, destroying himself and his parents.  The subject of a memorable three-parter, it always surprised me that nobody brought him back. I always wanted Julie Schwartz to bring him back, gather the energy and recreate the body. He looked just like Supes only he wore a burgler's mask. He had all of Superman's powers but was invulnerable to Kryptonite, and could potentionally turn any or all of himself into energy---it would be like Superman fighting himself, only one invulnerable to Kryptonite, and having the powers of Photon or the ElectroSuperman, to boot!---Al


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: TELLE on April 06, 2006, 11:18:05 PM
Quote from: "celacanto"
:shock:  :shock:  :shock: Wow TELLE thanks for the site with character stats for blood of heroes.

I have been doing this for myself for years.  :lol: ,  i thinks its time for start another of my RPG campaings.


Ha!  I didn't know that's what I was doing when I posted a link to a picture of Whirlicane!  I didn't bother to scan the page and figure out it contains information for role-playing games.  I wonder if it says anything about Superman's blood...


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: Gangbuster on April 11, 2006, 10:36:55 AM
I just ordered a Composite Superman action figure yesterday!

(http://www.hillcity-comics.com/toys/1st_composite.jpg)


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: DoctorZero on April 14, 2006, 03:07:14 PM
I was always a fan of the Composite Superman.  He only made two Silver Age appearances and I thought he should have made more.


Title: Re: Favorite obscure Pre-Crisis villians?
Post by: MatterEaterLad on April 14, 2006, 04:28:53 PM
Well, I think the legion statues got destroyed, it did take some unlikely circumstances to create him...I would have no problem with the Composite Superman breaking into the Iron Age and mopping up some lame foes "supposedly" more powerful than Superman... 8)