Superman Through the Ages! Forum

Discussion was (and is) here (http://superman.nu/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2992).

The vote:  Should Black Lightning 1-11 be added to the Canonical Sources?

This poll is open for 14 days.

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Sure, why not?

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Well, I voted no, but that's cool...

Who ARE those jive turkeys, anyway?

They look like Transgendered Cyborg, the Kryptonite Man, and D'Artagnon!

IMHO, one of the all time funniest covers ever! The story itself is even wackier!

read ll about it here: http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/103.html

I voted no.  I feel that Suicide Slum can be incorporated, if necessary, without making the first appearances canonical.

If the ideas and concepts first seen in Black Lightning did not become major fixtures in Superman family comics, why should BL be canonical?

Sheesh, these kind of debates usually find me in the conservative faction when I strive to be a raving lefty in real life!

LOL... 8)

Hey, someone who is s Bronze Age fan (shudder, :wink:) agreed with me! :lol:

Well, it could be argued that a lot of characters over the years did not become fixtures in Superman lore. That was never the point of The Great Superman Book. If something happened, then it did. If The 100's headquarters was beneath the Metropolis Superman Museum, then it was. If Inspector's Henderson's son was involved, then he was.

When we consider whether a series is canonical, we are not considering whether it is important or worthy. We are simply considering whether the events in the series ever happened or not.

Or whether the events in the series are important in the world of Superman.  For instance, the events in "Batman" or "Green Lantern" may have happened, but for the purposes of Supermanica, they are not worth noting.

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Strictly defined, yes.  But in practice, the canonical works we list at Supermanica are those parts of the chronicles that we have chosen to focus on.  There are already many examples of us quoting and referencing non-canonical sources (I always use the Batwoman entry as an example).  I'm not sure if most of us would agree that Superman's appearances in JLA didn't happen.  At the very least, such an exclusion seriously messes up other entries in Supermanica (JLA, Black Canary, etc).  That is why I feel most discussions of canonical work are not life and death to me: I expect every pre-Crisis appearance of Superman to become an entry at some point but the purpose of the canonical list in my mind has always been to help direct our energies on what we generally agree are the most important adventures.

Yeah, I guess I kind of agree, I have absolutely zero problems with some non-canonical references in an entry that obviously canonical, as long as they are properly referenced...if the 100 has a hideout under the Superman Museum, put it in the 100 entry and reference it...

I don't quite see the "happened" or "not happened" idea at all, its more on the focus of the entries...but there's sure a lot of grey areas, such as concentrate on a lot of canonical details or broaden out...

This is all Telle's fault, for suggesting the idea in the first place, LOL... 8)

I stand corrected a bunch of times  :)

In the Great Superman Book, there are many references to Batman and Detective Comics, even though they are not canonical. Of course, there is a different reason for this...there was also a Batman encyclopedia, and the Great Superman Book advertised for it (in the case of Bat-Mite being included in Supermanica, for example.)

And the 'ayes' have it.

BL has been added to the sources.

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Well, you got what you wanted so let's see him now get a nice long entry and every character from the mini get their own entry.

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Boo hoo hoo! :cry:

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Thought I'd post this since it's a ghostly echo of that JLA cover where Superman asks Black Lightning to join (discussed earlier).

Hey, what happen to all the Black Lightning related entries?

They're still there. I most recently edited and added a new image to the Black Lightning entry. I still don't have the whole series yet, but I'm working on it...just as well, because I've been really busy performing groomsman duties lately.

So far, I've added to and cleaned up the Black Lightning entry, the 100 entry, and the Superman Museum entry. There are not a terribly large amount of minor characters in the Black Lightning series that are not also in other Superman chronicles, but there are a few. The main task is adding new information from the series to expand existing articles.

Since I'm probably not going to get much help on this, you'll just have to wait until next week. I'll have time off then.

Well, OK...