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Title: Infinite Crisis HC's retcon punching edits? Multiverse?
Post by: Michel Weisnor on October 09, 2006, 10:38:51 AM
A friend emailed the following IC hardcover edit/changes

Issue 1

When Diana lunges at Mongul with her sword and Superman stops her, the dialogue is added to as Wonder Woman admits she was going to "pin him to the floor".

The two page spread of the trinity arguing has dispersed through it images of Uncle Sam getting the crap beaten out of him by the Society, then shot by Deathstroke.

Dialogue changes

Original: Wonder Woman: "What did you think I was going to do?"

New: Wonder Woman: "What did you think I was going to do? Kill him? I was going to pin him to the floor."

Issue 3:

The "Purple Death Ray" line has been removed!

When Batman asks about Nightwing, the line now reads, "You said this Earth corrupts everything. Is the Dick Grayson of my Earth a corrupted version of yours?"

Dialogue changes

Original:

Mera: "We need to get everyone someplace dry."

Aquaman (I assume): "Where would that be, Mera?

(Unknown): "They've reported over sixty category five storms across the world. Three on the U.S. coast alone."

New:

Mera: "We need to get everyone someplace dry."

Aquaman (I assume): "Where would that be, Mera? They've reported over sixty category five storms across the world. Three on the U.S. coast alone."


Original:

Amazonian: "We already have. The purple death ray has been completed."

New:
Amazonian: "We already have."

Original:

Batman: "And what about Dick Grayson?"

E-2 Superman: "Yes?

Batman: "Is he a better man on your earth than he is on mine?"

E-2 Superman: "No."

New:

Batman: "And what about Dick Grayson?"

E-2 Superman: "Yes?"

Batman: "You said this earth corrupts everything. Is the Dick Grayson of my earth a corrupted version of yours?"

E-2 Superman: "No."

Original

Lex: "What? Who are you?"

New:

Lex: "What? Who are you?"

Alex: "My hologram..."


Issue 5:

A two page spread is added of the heroes within the church. Lots of cameo's added.

Original

E-2 Wonder Woman:
"But now that I've left Olympus, the gods' blessings are fading. Soon I'll no longer exist."

New

E-2 Wonder Woman: "But now that I've left Olympus, the god's blessings to keep me here are fading. I'm being pulled... somewhere. "
 

Original

Kal-L: "I can't be another survivor of a dead world. Not without you."

Lois: "With all your powers, with everything you saw and did... ...you still never..."

Kal-L: "It can't end this way."

New:

Kal-L: "I can't be another survivor of a dead world. Not without you."

Lois: "I see the truth now, Clark. A truth even Alexander didn't see... ...there's something else out there... ...out there...

Kal-L: "It can't end this way.

Issue 6:

Original:

Psycho Pirate: "I can feel them. Phantom beings from the fabric of Earth-One, pulled from their restful peace, reborn in pain and given essence-- --then destroyed. Billions at a time."

Alex: "I planted this garden, Psycho Pirate. I have every right to tend to it."

New

Psycho Pirate: "I can feel phantom beings pulled from the fabrics of the multiverse, recreated and destroyed. For some reason Earth-Two remains vacant. Why when billions of other beings appear across the Multiverse like gosts. Reborn... ...then destroyed."

Alex: "The anomalies of Earth-Two are not my concern. Finding the perfect Earth is."


Issue 7:

The 2 page spread of the villain fight has the inks finished and is fully coloured.

Bane, as he's breaking Judomaster's back, now says, "I finally know who I am. I am Bane. I break people."

A couple more bits of dialogue are added to this page and the Special effect is taken out so you know see, clearly, Solomon Grundy and the Bloodpack being fried by Superboy.

When Wildcat sees the Earth-2 Superman for the first time, his dialogue is changed from "I think I remember him." to "It looks like Superman."

Captain Atom's dialogue is changed to "Where's the Earth...That other Earth...?"

A page is added in of Deathstroke fighting Batman, Nightwing and Robin and Batman takes Deathstroke out.

When the two Superman grab Superboy Prime, the following dialogue is added after "Now Superman!", "For Tomorrow!"

A page is added showing more of the villain war and Dr. Mid-nite pronouncing Nightwing alive.

When Batman points the gun at Alex, the "Chak" sound effect is taken out.

The two page spread of the heroes, at the end, is totally redrawn by George Perez with twice the amount of heroes. Looks fantastic!

Original

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i212/angelicknight36/icspreadorig.jpg

New

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e383/paulnewell/Infinite%20Crisis/icspread.jpg

Dialogue changes:

Original:

Alex: "This isn't Earth-One, Superboy. It never really was. And now this 'unified' world, this New Earth, has been altered again."

New

Alex: "This isn't Earth-One, Superboy. In fact, it never was. I miscalculated. I tried to divide a New Earth. Instead, I only altered its history."

Original

Wildcat: "Who is that?"

Power Girl: "Who do you think, Wildcat?"

Wildcat: "I think I remember. That's him."

Power Girl: "Yep. He's our Superm--"

New

Wildcat: "Who is that?"

Power Girl: "Who do you think, Wildcat?"

Wildcat: "It looks like Superman."

Power Girl: "Yep, he's our Superm--"

Original

Captain Atom: "W-What? Where am I?"

New

Captain Atom: "Where's the Earth... that other Earth?"

Original:

-- nothing

New:

Batman: "You joined a society of villains. You killed Phantom Lady. You destroyed Bludhaven. Why do it, Deathstroke?"

Deathstroke: "Because they're paying me, Batman."

Batman: "No, it's something else. You've abandoned your code of honor. Why?"

Nightwing: "Because his family abandoned him. He lost his sons. His daughter."

Deathstroke: "Because of you. It's always been because of you."

Robin: "You need to take some responsibility, Slade."

Batman: "We all do."

Original

Kal-L: "Now, Superman!"

Power Girl: "Kal!"

New:

Kal-L: "Now, Superman!"

Power Girl: "Kal!"

Kal-L: "For tomorrow!"

Original:

Kal-L: "It's not going to end. It's never going to end... for us... ...Lois."

New

Kal-L: "It's not going to end. It's never going to end... for us... ...one day you'll see... ...they're still out there... ...Lois."


The end of the book has a discussion with the creative team which has lots of little tidbits I'll go into later, but also ahs some extra art, unpublished stuff and otherwise, including:

An unused panel showing Pantha's head flying through the air past Robotman and Argent.

Unused artwork for the Earth-2 Wonder Woman sequence.

The original versions of the Villain War two page spread and Batman cocking the gun.


Title: Re: Infinite Crisis HC's retcon punching edits? Multiverse?
Post by: davidelliott on October 09, 2006, 12:27:49 PM
Thanks for posting this... I guess the original IC needed work!  I only read the issues at Waldenbooks (didn't buy them) and MAY get the trade...


Title: Re: Infinite Crisis HC's retcon punching edits? Multiverse?
Post by: Superman of America on October 09, 2006, 03:07:27 PM
Sounds like they're setting up an Earth 2 return. In Justice League of America #0 they had a scene where Supes, Bats, & Diana discover a second Earth(with the help of Flash). These new edits could be leading up to this.


Title: Re: Infinite Crisis HC's retcon punching edits? Multiverse?
Post by: Super Monkey on October 09, 2006, 05:42:08 PM
I guess someone pull Johns aside and told him that the post-crisis DC Earth was NOT Earth-1 like he thought it was. I am glad to see that was changed.


Title: Re: Infinite Crisis HC's retcon punching edits? Multiverse?
Post by: Michel Weisnor on October 11, 2006, 01:59:08 PM
Possible multiverse hints

"Power Girl finally found out who she was, only to lose everything, says Johns. How does that affect her? Does she think she can get it back? Can she get it back?  She feels a greater burden of responsibility now as she is carrying a legacy of -in her eyes- the one true Superman. For Power Girl, is the Crisis truly over? She's not going to give up searching for what she's lost, hints Johns. She's going to learn something from somebody very important that gives her a glimmer of hope. In the second half of the first year of the JSA, Power Girl will be put on a path that will change her, the team and the DC universe dramatically. Wizard 181"


Title: Re: Infinite Crisis HC's retcon punching edits? Multiverse?
Post by: davidelliott on October 17, 2006, 03:17:40 AM
Anyone else notice in the redrawn picture that Captain Marvel is back to his "old" self.. not wearing that white costume?


Title: Re: Infinite Crisis HC's retcon punching edits? Multiverse?
Post by: DBN on October 17, 2006, 05:25:12 PM
Anyone else notice in the redrawn picture that Captain Marvel is back to his "old" self.. not wearing that white costume?

That would be Freddy, the former Captain Marvel Jr.. Billy is in the white suit further in the background.

In the Trials of Shazam mini, Billy has taken the place of the wizard and Freddy is being promoted to Billy's former spot.