Superman Through the Ages! Forum

In praise, appreciation, and admiration of STAS, which I enjoyed much and presented Superman with a power level that was more identifiable, believable (for a biological natural organism), and dramatic. Any other big STAS fans here? I admire what Bruce Timm did.

Speaking of which, what were his power levels? I believe his flight was supersonic about that of a Concorde, a large enough conventional bomb could kill him and he had reduced invulnerability (good), and he could not fly in space and had to breathe. In any case, he could not even near escape velocity.

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Oh yeah, you can definately count me in here. Dini and Timm did an outstanding job on this show. I have very few complaints with this show at all. I kinda prefer to think of it as the real Post-Crisis Superman. ;p


His power levels in the show were left somewhat ambiguous. I kind of think of it as an ampted up version of the Fleisher powerlevels that incorperates flight, and vision powers. I liked that he was the guy who could get the ever lovin crap knocked out of him but he would still get back up. His invnerability may be what held him together but it was his unyeilding determination that would get him to his feet.

Overall, it was enjoyable and definitely had some great moments.  I liked how they tied Braniac to Krypton more, how they brought Supergirl back, and the voice acting all around (Andrea Romano rocks!).  I didn't mind his power levels being reduced in the cartoon (though I never cared for gas-mask-to-breathe Superman).  The comic book rendition of the show was better than any of the mainstream Superman comics at the time, and kept me a fan through really dumb Iron Age crapola.






 

Their version of Brainiac into the Krypton backstory was to me a stroke of brilliance. Kryptons reliance on this technology also went a long way into helping explain why the council was so quick to just dismiss one of the greates scientific minds on the planet. This coupled with the idea that Jor-El seems to be viewed as an outcast.

As I mentioned elsewhere, I felt they had the perfect compromise for Supergirls origins and an overall fun take on her.

Great character designs. Loved the look and feel of Metropolis. Great takes on the villans. Loved the inclusion of Kirby. Their take on Superman himself is well balanced. He kinda has the "Clark first" thing going on but unlike Byrne he doesn't dismiss his Kryptonian heritage. It's very much a part of him and there is a real sense of loss about it. So he is just as much Kal-El as he is Clark Kent.

Quite frankly STAS Superman is my favorite version of Superman although The Roy Thomas All Star Earth 2 Guy is pretty close. All the TAs stuff was pretty magnificent IMO.

This is completely beside the point, but Lucy Lawless would make a great girlfriend for Superman, what with her initials and all.

I always thought it was sorta lame especially compared to Batman the Animated Series. It seems (to me) that the creators really loved batman comics but that Superman was "just a job" to them in order fullful some contract.
By this point I was already getting tired with that dini style animation, but the voice acting was great.

 I already stated in a previous thread that I didn't care for the reduced power levels because I saw it as them trying to find a cheap way of humanizing him. This seemed to be a theme in the post-crisis years, try and make Superman more human by reducing his strength. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that is what it looked like to me.

I did like the Brainiac idea and Supergirl's new look, but I agree that it was something they just did because I think they felt obligated to. Mercy always looked like someone they had to invent to balance out creating Harley for the Batman cartoon. Maybe it was because after the success with Batman, I came to expect too much, I don't know. STAS always just seemed like the Batman cartoon's little sister. Not a good place for Supes to be in. 

The only way they'd ever succeeded in making super-powerful Superman "work" in the context of a half-hour team cartoon was to make him REALLY stupid.  This scatologically funny site describes it best:

http://www.seanbaby.com/superfriends/superman.htm

I didn't mind having him toned down a little.  Turning back time to end a blockbuster movie is one thing.  Turning back time (or some similar act of deus ex Supermachina) to end every other cartoon episode can make the whole Superman experience ho-hum.  It's hard to add suspense to a guy who, in pre-Crisis glory, could solve most of the world's problems before breakfast and have time to pitch at that charity softball game.

I did mind when an electric manhole cover was enough to stun Superman, or when we had to wear a stupid space suit and constantly relied on other scientists rather than invoke science on their own.  They erred on the side of making him a wimp a little too often, but they improved on that over time.  I decidedly -didn't- like how JLU ended, with Superman giving a big speech about how the world is like cardboard, doing some thunderous punches, but ultimately getting his butt kicked. 
 
Mercy Graves was pretty awesome.  Lex needed an entourage, and she's a more interesting villain than, say, Dumbsday.  I think it's neat that her voice actor has had the best post-S:TAS career of any of the DCAU, basically in an interesting power relationship with a mad scientist sort. 

Hello to  all
Very interested in  view points  on  the  new DVD .
Does  it  need  the  PG-13 rating?
I  enjoyed  the dvd , as  well  as  the  extra's , and  I feel that it did need  the PG rating, cause of  good old DOOMSDAY'S killing people, as  well as  the  Toyman's "flight " with the clone
It  is  an  adult  animated  feature 
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Last night, I watched Superman Doomsday and plan on posting a review. I'll give you a quick idea how I felt after the initial viewing. Superman #75 is a Silver Age comic compared with this Superman Doomsday movie..... On a positive note, the extras were great.