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Superman Comic Books! => Infinite Crossover! => Topic started by: Superman of America on February 23, 2007, 09:01:05 AM



Title: Does anybody have some black Superman pics?
Post by: Superman of America on February 23, 2007, 09:01:05 AM
I love to get scans of the black Superman & Supergirl of Earth D from Marv Wolfman's Legends of the DC Universe lost Crisis story. Also, any scans of Sunshine Superman from the Animal Man comics too.


Title: Re: Does anybody have some black Superman pics?
Post by: davidelliott on February 23, 2007, 03:12:19 PM
I would love to read the story, actually!


Title: Re: Does anybody have some black Superman pics?
Post by: Super Monkey on February 23, 2007, 09:16:19 PM
I don't know, but here are some Micro Heroes:

Sunshine Superman:
(http://www.greatkrypton.com/superman/micro/sunshinesuperman.gif)

Superman of Earth-D:
(http://jerome.galica.free.fr/dc%20comics/Jla/earthD/Superman-EarthD-Elph.gif)


Title: Re: Does anybody have some black Superman pics?
Post by: crispy snax on February 24, 2007, 05:58:02 AM
i would love to have a copy of that Crisis on Infinite earths story! however every comic book store i visit or site i click on i allways have a looksee for it, and it never seems to be in...

although heres a thought....

right now we are having these "crisis on multiple earths" tpbs.... wouldnt it bee cool if in the last one they included this story??  i wanna see Earth-D(iversity)


Title: Re: Does anybody have some black Superman pics?
Post by: Superman of America on February 24, 2007, 09:25:16 PM
Thanks Super Monkey for the micro heroes. I found full scans of LotDCU: CRISIS comic here: http://community.livejournal.com/fullscans_daily/25270.html


Title: Re: Does anybody have some black Superman pics?
Post by: Super Monkey on February 24, 2007, 11:11:48 PM
Here is Sunshine Superman:

(http://blaklion.best.vwh.net/images/Dreamworld.jpg)

Grant Morrison's full run on Animal Man has been released as TPBs.



Title: Re: Does anybody have some black Superman pics?
Post by: crispy snax on February 25, 2007, 03:31:48 AM
thanks for the link superman of america! i would name my first child after you out of gratitude but i think they would get bullied alot...


Title: Re: Does anybody have some black Superman pics?
Post by: Superman of America on February 25, 2007, 10:50:47 AM
thanks for the link superman of america! i would name my first child after you out of gratitude but i think they would get bullied alot...
Glad to do it & Bwa-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Does anybody have some black Superman pics?
Post by: davidelliott on February 25, 2007, 06:55:14 PM
Wow.. thanks for the link!  I FINALLY got to read that story.  Awesome read!


Title: Re: Does anybody have some black Superman pics?
Post by: crispy snax on February 26, 2007, 06:38:32 AM
i just read it(couldnt read it last night) and its a fun story! its not world changing, its not a revolutionary insight into the characters and their cheese preferances, just good superhero bashin fun



Title: Re: Does anybody have some black Superman pics?
Post by: davidelliott on February 26, 2007, 11:16:33 AM
In just dwelling on the story, I really enjoyed it... it recaptured the heroes I knew and loved (except Batman was less human than he was supposed to be at that time) and to see the Earth-D's Superman's Fortress really hit home the fact that even though these other Earth's heroes could have had radically different backstories, they were still very similar.

It's too bad the mainstream DCU couldn't be more diverse.


Title: Re: Does anybody have some black Superman pics?
Post by: dto on February 26, 2007, 01:32:38 PM
In just dwelling on the story, I really enjoyed it... it recaptured the heroes I knew and loved (except Batman was less human than he was supposed to be at that time) and to see the Earth-D's Superman's Fortress really hit home the fact that even though these other Earth's heroes could have had radically different backstories, they were still very similar.

It's too bad the mainstream DCU couldn't be more diverse.


Well, if you examine the new replacement characters introduced immediately before and during Infinite Crisis/52, it appears that DC is trying to incorporate more diversity.  But many diehard fans seem to either resent the new "impostors" or decry the "execution" of this trend -- as in killing off Blue Beetle, the Question, Firestorm, etc.  Whether any of these casualties ultimately return from the dead and resume their old roles is moot; this otherwise laudable diversity program seems poorly implimented and forced.

As for "Legends of the DC Universe: Crisis on Infinite Earths, the Untold Story" (Rao, what a LONG title!), some fans dispute whether it should be incorporated as Crisis canon -- Wolfman wrote this almost 14 years after the original series, and there's continuity conflicts such as the "darker" post-1986 Batman.

Here's annotations:  http://www.io.com/~woodward/chroma/cr4_5.html

The Justice Alliance of America were still relative amateurs -- notice how awed they were when "our' heroes arrived.  But some were notable -- I liked the black Superman/Supergirl husband and wife team (did they come from Vathlo island?), the Japanese-American Flash, and the short-lived Green Lantern's wry humor made some classic lines:

"I'm the new Green Lantern!

"My first mission is to save the universe from destruction.

"What will the Guardians expect for an ENCORE?" 

And in a sense, Captain José Hernandez DID save A universe... just not his own.  He died while saving Earth-D's Supergirl, who would shortly sacrifice herself to buy time for the others to evacuate her doomed world.  And those surviving heroes (especially Supergirl and Superman) soon proved essential for ultimately defeating the Anti-Monitor.

The conclusion left me torn.  Supergirl has an inspirational speech (with an ominous tinge for those who already read Crisis #7), and her embracing Superman in the final scene is a heart-touching "farewell".  See:

http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legendsofthedcucrisisoninfinit1.jpg

http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legendsofthedcucrisisoninfinit.jpg

But at the same time, I felt a similar frustration when reading Kara's "pep talk" to Deadman in "May Auld Acquaintance Be Forgot?" -- why did Supergirl retroactively deliver her best lines AFTER she was officially "dead and forgotten"?  Had DC writers treated Kara during her lifetime with half the respect lauded upon her since her passing, who knows what might have transpired?