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Title: Maybe there shouldn't be another Superman film
Post by: bryan on July 05, 2003, 06:16:25 PM
I've been thinking about this for a while and, huge Superman fan that I am, I think that there should be no more Superman films made.

I'm not saying this because of the development hell this planned film has been in or because of Jon Peters.

Those are factors, but not the major one.

My feeling is that Superman The Movie and Superman II set a standard and feeling that no future Superman film (no matter how well crafted) can ever equal.

Why, because they were like your first love. Everything is new and fresh.

Supemran was the first super-hero film of the modern era. It has an appeal and inspiration that, like that first lovve, is forever unique and will never be equalled.

I'd prefer they let the first two movies stand as the definitive Superman film. They were about as good as you can get and there is no need to do any more. Further movies will only take away from the special nature of the Reeve Superman films by diluting them.


Title: Re: Maybe there shouldn't be another Superman film
Post by: lastkryptonianhere on July 08, 2003, 08:42:21 PM
Okay sometimes I think that maybe you are right but I just can not believe that with proper care and repect we can have another Superman movie that would blow people away like the first movie did.  Sure there have been problems but for over 20 years Spider-man was in movie option hell and well Spider-Man was an awesome movie - just think what the special effects in Superman would be.  However the main reason Superman - The Movie is one of the best movies ever was because of the acting.  The effects got the people's attention but Christopher Reeves' clark/superman and the supporting cast (epecially Gene Hackman) were what have made this movie such a success.


Title: Re: Maybe there shouldn't be another Superman film
Post by: bryan on July 12, 2003, 05:32:37 PM
I feel that everything has been done that can be done with Superman in the movies. Trying to more Superman film now is like a TV series thats best days are over (Fraiser) which still tries to keep coming back for yet another season.

You can't capture that original feel/quality and it would be a huge creative mistake to ever try doing anoher Superman filom.

With one exception. Let the franchise go out on a huge note. Do a real death of Superman film where the Man of Steel, in the movie continuity, is killed off. Base it on something like Superman 149.

Have Superman go out in a blaze of glory sacrificing himself for Earth. The original Lemkin script for Superman Reborn did indeed do just this. Really kill off Superman.

But WB got scared because it might be hard selling to advertisers who would tie in with the film a movie in which Superman actually dies.

It would be huge  - as big as Spidey maybe. And the Superman movie franchise would end with a huge bang.

That's the only way another Superman film could ever be made which would resonate with viewers as the first Reeeve film did.


Title: Re: Maybe there shouldn't be another Superman film
Post by: KryptoniteKills on August 13, 2003, 08:16:24 PM
There has onely been one big-screen interpretation of Superman.  Sure it consists of four movies, but they were all the same basic version of the character, and they weren'r really even trying on the last two.  I'd say there is still plenty of room for a new movie franchise.  I'm more than a little iffy about MCG and Peters handling it though.


Title: Re: Maybe there shouldn't be another Superman film
Post by: Klar Ken T5477 on August 15, 2003, 10:47:52 PM
Let see if they can hold out for Welling.  Superman's had a variety of media incarnations and Id like to see a NEW ONE IF handled with CARE AND RESPECT like Tollins/RTobbins have been doing with Smallville.


Title: Re: Maybe there shouldn't be another Superman film
Post by: Kal-El10 on August 19, 2003, 12:12:23 AM
It is an excellent point that Christopher Reeve will be a very hard act to follow. Howver, prior to Superman The Movie, that same comment was made about George Reeves. Dean Cain did a pretty good job of intepreting the character and there are surely some actors today that could, not make people forget Reeve, but offer a good compliment. Of those mentioned that I'm familiar with, Brendan Frasier would be my choice. I think he has shwn the range to play all aspects of the character convincingly. I'm sure there are others though please not Ashton Kutcher.


Title: Re: Maybe there shouldn't be another Superman film
Post by: Super Monkey on August 19, 2003, 01:03:38 AM
Let's see, who looks more like Superman :

Brendan Frasier

(http://www.actorarchives.com/brendan/brendan.jpg)
(http://www.fashiondish.com/issues/images/oct2000images/Brendan%20Fraser%20150.jpg)

http://www.brendanfraser.com/

or

Ashton Kutcher

(http://mostbeautifulmen.com/imagesmarch2001/ashton.jpg)

http://www.allaboutashton.com/


Title: Re: Maybe there shouldn't be another Superman film
Post by: Klar Ken T5477 on August 19, 2003, 02:55:51 AM
Neither...not Josh "Beady Eyes' Hartnett as well.


Title: Re: Maybe there shouldn't be another Superman film
Post by: Super Monkey on August 19, 2003, 03:23:15 AM
well, here is

Josh "Beady Eyes" Hartnett

(http://www.screensavershot.com/persons2/hartnett.jpg)
(http://www.had.net/stuff/ph-hartnett.jpg)



ok, So who would you pick as the perfect Superman?


Title: Re: Maybe there shouldn't be another Superman film
Post by: lastkryptonianhere on August 19, 2003, 11:18:57 AM
Quote from: "Super Monkey"
ok, So who would you pick as the perfect Superman?


any male with a hot red head


Title: Re: Maybe there shouldn't be another Superman film
Post by: Kal-El10 on August 19, 2003, 09:11:27 PM
It wasn't looks that cause me to reject Kutcher, its talent or lack thereof. That may be unfair as I never thought Matt LeBlanc could play anything but a dunce but he wasn't bad as Don West in the mediocre LIS movie. I think Frasier has the range to play Clark abd Superman as different people.

When you come down to it looks are the least important. Other than dark hair there aren't that many similarities between Kirk Alyn, George Reeves, Christopher Reeve, Dean Cain & Tom Welling.


Title: Re: Maybe there shouldn't be another Superman film
Post by: Klar Ken T5477 on August 19, 2003, 10:06:42 PM
Well they have classic features -almost greco-roman in nature  something the afore mentioned candidates have none of.


Title: Re: Maybe there shouldn't be another Superman film
Post by: Skykisser on September 02, 2003, 08:04:15 PM
In mine and many other's opinion the Christopher Reeve version will be the one and only forever greatest Superman movie of all time.But I think theres always a chance they could sign up a good new man-of-steel and then with a great solid fresh storyline maybe.....just maybe they could pull it off.I'm praying they do!


Title: Re: Maybe there shouldn't be another Superman film
Post by: Brainiac44 on February 02, 2004, 10:24:28 AM
Superman: the movie - my first love??? LOL!  Very true.  I've seen it originally as it came out in the theater.  You gotta remember though that some other folks' first love was the Adventures of Superman with Mr George Reeves.  These people when they heard of a young guy called Chris Reeve taking the role may have said the same...  To say that Superman: the movie cannot be surpassed gives sense to the phrase "never say never"...  Who's to say that the 100 metre race record can never be beaten?  I saw Superman: the movie, it's the greatest, fine.  If another movie is made, then I'll judge.  
My grief with a future movie is what's beneath the movie.  I'm afraid that the movie will be made for the sole purpose of marketting.  
Take movie scores...  They used to be made to set a mood for a movie.  Now, movie scores are made to be sold as an item.  So, what are we to think?  Is a movie score for a movie or it's only a by-product?
So, I just say this: beware of the over-exploitation.


Title: Re: Maybe there shouldn't be another Superman film
Post by: blitzschlange on March 10, 2004, 09:50:27 PM
I am a HUGE fan of the Reeve movies (well, the first two), but I wouldn't be averse to a new one.    I loved the 'Superboy' TV show, and even like 'Lois & Clark' at first, so I'm okay with other interpretations.  However, I see no need for a new origin story, as it's been done, already.  I think Superman movies could just accept the origin as established and go from there.    I also would like to see a slightly older Superman, maybe not such youngsters being considered for the role.  I think this quirk of mine is just because of George Reeves.   Brendan Frasier might be okay, though.  Not the Howdy Doody looking guy, Hartnett.  He looks like Jimmy Olsen to me.  I do think that with today's special effects, a Superman movie could really blow people away.  However, the  Smallville series being so popular now makes me think a new movie would really hurt the franchise in the eyes of the general public.  I mean, if it's a flop, the show suffers, and if it's a hit, the show suffers, and why mess with a cash cow?  I would actually like to see a big-budget Shazam! flick instead, just because there are no real expectations to live up to.   At this point, I'm hoping for no new movies about Superman for a few years, at least.