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Title: Is Thor Bulletproof?
Post by: TELLE on May 31, 2007, 02:23:06 AM
Struck by Nightwing's (I think?) comment about about how no-one says "Who do you think you are, Thor?" I got to wondering, is Thor bulletproof? 

Is the Avengers' Wonder Man? (non-dead version)

I don't imagine Thor's clothes/costume are made of unstable molecules.  They are magically made.  The Hulk traditionally had pants that tore.  Who else in the Marvelverse had a costume that wasn't unstable molecules?  Luke Cage?  He's bulletproof, no?

Could Thor survive in the sun?  At the Earth's core?  Does he bleed?



Title: Re: Is Thor Bulletproof?
Post by: JulianPerez on May 31, 2007, 09:29:38 AM
Thor isn't bulletproof. That's why he swings Mjolnir around to block bullets, missiles and laser beams, and why, during the Roger Stern eighties run on AVENGERS, he was wearing that cool semi-historical Viking armor.

Thor was actually once shot in the head between the eyes in an issue of the Chris Priest BLACK PANTHER, however, the bullet bounced off the skull.

Obviously Thor is tough and his flesh is resilient and heals quickly - he had the indignity of a building dropped on him during the first great Thor/Hercules battle, and he's taken punches from guys like the Hulk and the Destroyer armor.

Thor is not totally indestructible, however. During Thor's quest for the Norn stones after "Trial of the Gods," he couldn't get one of the Norn stones, because it was placed on top of North Vietnamese artillery shells. If the wall of shells drew fire and exploded, Thor remarked it would be unlikely he'd survive.

And yes, Asgardians do have something like blood. During the Alan Zelenetz MIGHTY THOR (he was the guy that came right before Simonson), Dracula drained Lady Sif. And Thor can bleed. Remember Thor's wounded, shirtless torso in the "Ultron, we will have words with thee" scene in "Ultron Unlimited?"

The trouble with Thor is that there have been exceptions. By far the most obnoxious is one story that has him very comfortable inside the sun (!). This is the Mighty Thor equivalent of those issues of Superboy where he communicates with Krypto using "telepathy."

As for Wonder Man...yeah, his Ionic-energy powered bod is indestructible and bulletproof. Incidentally, he's very much alive: he was recently used in an issue of Dan Slott's AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE.

What death would even MEAN to a being of energy like Simon is unclear at this point. Because of his energy composition he's come back from the dead TWICE - as has his fellow Ionic-energy user, Count Nefaria. The way Nefaria was brought back was especially cool: when his body was re-energized, he returned as an Ionic-energy sucking vampire, capturing ionic guys like Wonder Man and Atlas from THUNDERBOLTS.

As for the question of who else in the MU didn't wear clothes of unstable molecules...

Spider-Man doesn't wear unstable molecules...mostly so we can get scenes of him sewing and pricking his finger.

Ditto for Doc Strange, whose vestments have magical significance (especially his Cloak of Levitation and the Amulet of Agamotto).

Don't quote me on this, but I seem to remember that the Power Pack had costumes made of alien materials.they got from that horse-headed race, which they could don and remove with "Costume On!" and "Costume Off!"


Title: Re: Is Thor Bulletproof?
Post by: Uncle Mxy on June 01, 2007, 03:34:27 PM
For an amusing list of Thor's superfeats, check out:

http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/archive/index.php/t-36947.html

Thor and Wonder Woman have the same issue...  a protective gimmick that looks cool on paper but seems silly in light of how powerful they've become. 



Title: Re: Is Thor Bulletproof?
Post by: Aldous on June 01, 2007, 07:37:21 PM
Thor is definitely bulletproof. Why do I say that? I have at least one comic where he fights the Hulk toe-to-toe, and if he can shrug off punches from the Hulk, a bullet is a joke to him.

Anyone who has the density of flesh and sinew to twist steel and lift up cars and smash through the walls of buildings MUST be super-tough. You couldn't have THAT strength and still have flesh and skin like normal human beings do. You'd rip yourself to pieces the first time you tried to use your super-strength.

As for Wonder Woman, she is NOT bulletproof. Why do I say that? Because I still like to think she would be soft and delicate and feminine to the touch.  ;D



Title: Re: Is Thor Bulletproof?
Post by: Super Monkey on June 01, 2007, 08:03:52 PM
I got to wondering, is Thor bulletproof?

Do fish have lips?


Title: Re: Is Thor Bulletproof?
Post by: DoctorZero on June 10, 2007, 07:49:27 AM
Originally I don't believe that Thor was Bulletproof.  However, over time (like Superman) he became more and more powerful, becoming bulletproof. 

If you want a logical explaination, at first the Don Blake personality was dominant.  Blake believed he wasn't bulletproof, and used his hammer to protect himself from bullets.  Once the Thor personal took control, he didn't worry that much about "mere" bullets.


Title: Re: Is Thor Bulletproof?
Post by: miceland on June 25, 2007, 02:21:50 PM
Reminds me of a discussion I had about Thor flying.

Can Thor fly? Yes.
He uses his hammer to fly.
Can he fly without the hammer?
No, without the hammer he is not Thor. Therefore he cannot fly.

*Sigh*


Title: Re: Is Thor Bulletproof?
Post by: Permanus on June 25, 2007, 05:13:52 PM
Of course, in Norse mythology, he flies around in a carriage pulled by two goats; they do the flying. He's also got iron gloves and stuff, a bit like Tony Stark, so chances are bullets aren't going to faze him.


Title: Re: Is Thor Bulletproof?
Post by: TELLE on June 26, 2007, 03:56:36 AM
Well, Uncle Mxy's link seems to have satisfied me.  It seems he is invulnerable to all but magic --Dracula's teeth or a magic sword, for example.  Still, I can imagine times when Thor's godforce is low or he is distracted --and maybe those teleportation tricks are draining?  And doesn't he get alot of his power from Odin (or from humans believing in him)?  Thor's clothes aren't invulnerable --he gets them torn up alot (but they should burn off as well).


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1) INVULNERABILITY: The following are historical examples of incredibly devastating forces that has been used against Thor. Thor has survived each of these highly Lethal attacks, and most of the time have come out unscathed. A) Thor has been on the receiving end of Zeus and Blitziana's LIGHTNING bolts. B) Thor withstood a barrage of ARTILLARY fire with ease, and a Heat Seeking Missile- see Thor#480, and Thor-#247; C) and in the J. Kirby's days Thor used to test his invulnerability by having a Cobalt Bomb explode next to him. D) Kang’s Dissolution blast to the EXTREME did not fell Thor-Avengers-#143, and in Avengers-#295 Mechanosaurus struck Thor with a Megahertz Artillery fire that would easily destroy any vehicle to pieces- with no visible effect on Thor (Note: even bullets from a powerful sub-machine gun can’t hope to accomplish the same amount of penetration or destruction that could a Megahertz artillery attack by Mechnanosaurus). In Avengers-#5-pg 20- it explicitly stated that nothing, not even an ATOMIC BLAST could injure Thor, or his hammer. E) Thor resisted the full power of the Man from Saturn’s Graviton ray-Thor-#255. F) Thor withstood the Thermal Man's HEAT blast that could melt Tanks instantly, also, Thor was insensitive to the Lava Man's attack- see Avengers #5. In addition, Thor withstood a direct hit by Firelord’s Cosmic Flame with absolutely no dire visible effect on him- Thor-#306, and Ghost Rider’s Flame proved to be totally ineffectual against Thor, as well- Avengers-#214, and when the Planet Ego raised his internal heat temperature to the EXTREME, it had no affect on Thor-See Thor-#133. G) Thor was unaffected by an Alien Freeze Ray-Avengers-#14 (vol.1). H) In terms of indescribable sheer Magical, and Cosmic power, for instance, Thor was just temporarily stunned by Ego’s pulsating energy attack that would, physically, have rendered AN ENTIRE RACE UNCOUNSCIOUS- Thor-#133. In addition, Thor withstood blast by Odin-Thor-#241, by the Celestials-Thor-#300, and by a space Armada-Avengers-Annual#7. However, the three most impressive testimony events that showed Thor's invulnerability, however, was when he, almost, took a direct hit by a Doomsday Bomb that was capable of destroying an entire planet, and soon after that explosion Thor felt from space to a planet called Pangoria-see Thor#387. Also, Thor resisted the weight of Multitude of Planets-Thor Annual-#9, and the Gravity of a Neutron Star-Thor-#282. The other event took place when Thor paid an uninvited visit to ATUM in the Sun's core. If you think that this wasn’t enough, Thor has survive incredible physical punishment by the likes of the Destroyer, Durok, the Mangog, Surtur- Thor-#351, by the Devourer-Marvel Two In One-#23, The Thermal Man, Terminus, the 300,000 ft. tall Rhun god when he swatted Thor aside-Thor#220, and the Celestial- The One Above All- when he not only swatted Thor aside, but did hurled at him unnumbered tons of delicate machinery at him with no significant adverse effect on Thor-See Thor-#288.