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Title: More news from Kurt Busiek
Post by: Great Rao on June 19, 2007, 11:57:07 AM
Kurt answers more questions from readers:

http://supermanhomepage.com/inter-action/inter-action.php?topic=QfK/QfK


Title: Re: More news from Kurt Busiek
Post by: Michel Weisnor on June 19, 2007, 12:31:50 PM
"I'm sure a lot of people are going to ask this, but here goes: Lightray died just last week in Countdown (complete with Superman screaming in big red letters), but is alive and well in the new issue of Superman, is this because of all the delays, or did you just want to use Lightray, and we're supposed to assume this story took place before Countdown 48? Or most sinister of all, is it just a mistake?

Kurt: It's noted on the splash page that the story takes place before Countdown 48, actually. And yeah, it was scheduled to come out earlier, but, well, we're almost out of the schedule problems of last year, but not completely. Soon, though!"


I hope DC fixes scheduling problems. Countdown and monthly title continuity is all over the place.



Title: Re: More news from Kurt Busiek
Post by: Great Rao on June 19, 2007, 03:31:02 PM
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Mike: I really enjoy seeing Clark talk through his problems with Lana & Lois in this issue. I do wish Clark was sometimes shown hanging out with guy friends (non-superhero). It seems his pal Jimmy is his main male friend but Jimmy often is shown as too immature to be really there for Clark. Any thoughts about this?

Kurt: I have to admit, I haven't really thought about it. Maybe we'll have to do something about that...

One of the many reasons that I liked Vartox so much was because of the close friendship that he and Superman shared.  They were equals and they talked about real things.  Vartox was the only person that Superman was able to have no secrets from - he could just relax, open up, and be himself.  I think one of the reasons that Superman is now much less uptight and more laid-back about things than he was in the 80s is because of his friendship with Vartox.

Either that or because the 80s never happened.  I forget.


Title: Re: More news from Kurt Busiek
Post by: Klar Ken T5477 on June 19, 2007, 05:45:29 PM
Depends which Earth the 80s happened on, I suppose.

And there's only 52 of them -- for now.


Title: Re: More news from Kurt Busiek
Post by: jamespup on June 30, 2007, 01:23:33 PM
As indicated in Sinestro Corps Special (which I HIGHLY recommend.....there's a lot going on, including a major "break-through", so to speak) , there are 52 parallel earths in THIS universe, as well as 52 parallel UNIVERSES.

so what would that be, 52 x 52 x 52 = 140,608 earths?   Are my calculations correct? 


Title: Re: More news from Kurt Busiek
Post by: Super Monkey on June 30, 2007, 03:25:33 PM
I am suck at Math, but let's see here:

each universe has 52 earths and there are 52 universes so shouldn't that be 52 x 52?
2,704 Earths in all?





Title: Re: More news from Kurt Busiek
Post by: jamespup on June 30, 2007, 03:56:39 PM
Yeah, 2704, I can't say why I thought it should be multiplied again.

52 universes, each with 52 earths


Title: Re: More news from Kurt Busiek
Post by: Klar Ken T5477 on June 30, 2007, 04:01:56 PM
More to be destroyed in the next senses shattering crisis! :o


Title: Re: More news from Kurt Busiek
Post by: Permanus on June 30, 2007, 05:01:10 PM
As indicated in Sinestro Corps Special (which I HIGHLY recommend.....there's a lot going on, including a major "break-through", so to speak) , there are 52 parallel earths in THIS universe, as well as 52 parallel UNIVERSES.

so what would that be, 52 x 52 x 52 = 140,608 earths?   Are my calculations correct? 

I don't really get this; shouldn't there just be one earth per universe? I mean, the earths are parallel by virtue of them being in parallel universes. Aren't they?

Imagine you have a Universe that likes to make cigarettes out of Earths, and it takes 52 Earths to make one cigarette. This Universe has 52 Earths and it has 51 friends with 52 Earths apiece. Oh heck, I forgot to tell you one is supposed to treat the Earths like cigarette butts. Look, forget it, this'll take too long; either way, the answer is always one more than you thought it was, so the correct answer would have been 53, if I'd even bothered to ask it properly.


Title: Re: More news from Kurt Busiek
Post by: Michel Weisnor on June 30, 2007, 05:43:58 PM
As indicated in Sinestro Corps Special (which I HIGHLY recommend.....there's a lot going on, including a major "break-through", so to speak) , there are 52 parallel earths in THIS universe, as well as 52 parallel UNIVERSES.

This explanation might be the hinted Megaverse. Guess we'll have to wait and see.  ;)


Title: Re: More news from Kurt Busiek
Post by: Super Monkey on June 30, 2007, 06:10:34 PM
I belive what he meant to write was:

there are 52 parallel earths in THIS multiverse, as well as 52 parallel MULTIVERSES.




Title: Re: More news from Kurt Busiek
Post by: Great Rao on June 30, 2007, 07:18:12 PM
Yes, one Earth per universe.

52 parallel universes (ie, 52 earths) per multiverse.

52 multiverses per megaverse

52 megaverses per omniverse

and so on up to the hyperverse.

We've only had 2 Crisises so far (with 52 countdowns and other tie-in serieses per Crisis), that leaves 50 more Crisises, each having their own countdowns and tie-in serieses - should keep DC busy for a while.

So I get that the number of Earths is 5252, which is roughly 1.71 X 1089.  Either way, it's quite a tidy sum, but still just a finite number.

The main problem here is that the original Crisis series was called "Crisis on Infinite Earths," not "Crisis on 52 Earths," so I don't see how DC can justify 52, or even 5252, as the cut-off.

They should really increase it to something like

52525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252525252

which is 52 raised to the power of 52, 52 times.

Now that's thinking big!


Title: Re: More news from Kurt Busiek
Post by: jamespup on June 30, 2007, 07:57:24 PM
Minivans?  Like Omni?   Infiniti?   


Too many !  Not Enough ! 


Title: Re: More news from Kurt Busiek
Post by: Great Rao on June 30, 2007, 08:05:20 PM
Minivans?  Like Omni?   Infiniti?   


Hey, that's right!  I forgot about the other direction - the miniverses are within the universes, the microverses within the miniverses, etc.


Title: Re: More news from Kurt Busiek
Post by: jamespup on June 30, 2007, 08:08:15 PM
"oh dear! I shall never get to twenty at that rate!"

Alice - Alice in Wonderland


Title: Re: More news from Kurt Busiek Vartox
Post by: Michel Weisnor on September 26, 2007, 11:00:33 PM
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Mike: I really enjoy seeing Clark talk through his problems with Lana & Lois in this issue. I do wish Clark was sometimes shown hanging out with guy friends (non-superhero). It seems his pal Jimmy is his main male friend but Jimmy often is shown as too immature to be really there for Clark. Any thoughts about this?

Kurt: I have to admit, I haven't really thought about it. Maybe we'll have to do something about that...

One of the many reasons that I liked Vartox so much was because of the close friendship that he and Superman shared.  They were equals and they talked about real things.  Vartox was the only person that Superman was able to have no secrets from - he could just relax, open up, and be himself.  I think one of the reasons that Superman is now much less uptight and more laid-back about things than he was in the 80s is because of his friendship with Vartox.

Either that or because the 80s never happened.  I forget.


Not sure if this info has been posted.

http://www.comicbloc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=669642&postcount=1387