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Superman Through the Ages! => Site Updates! => Topic started by: Great Rao on July 21, 2003, 01:24:23 PM



Title: "SAGA of the SUPER-SONS!"
Post by: Great Rao on July 21, 2003, 01:24:23 PM
Here it is:

"SAGA of the SUPER-SONS!" (http://superman.nu/super-sons/saga/)
(http://superman.nu/super-sons/lunch.gif) (http://superman.nu/super-sons/saga/)

If it turns out that people actually like this sort of thing and want to see more of it, please speak up.  I've got a couple additional "Super-Sons" stories that I could put online if we get enough requests.

Otherwise I might just work on something else ;-)

:s:


Title: Re: "SAGA of the SUPER-SONS!"
Post by: nightwing on July 21, 2003, 03:54:06 PM
I'd forgotten some of the weird stuff in this one, and I just read it a couple months ago!

Consider:

Page 7: Bruce Jr. says: "I'm waiting for someone...someone I need like BAD!" Clark Jr. says: "I guess we both had the same need!"  This kind of dialog recurs in later installments and gives a really creepy subtext to the series.  Was this the original Ambiguously Gay duo?

Page 8: Superman (Sr) doesn't "like using a whole city as a test-tube..." but he has no problem creating a second city, also full of living souls, to conduct that same crazy experiment.  The difference?  Apparently he can somehow make this version "go away" when the test is over.  Better hope you don't live in that reality, or your life span is only a few days long! Talk about god-like power!

Page 9: The way to make that second city? Rip up the San Andreas fault and give it a good shake!  There goes that famous concern for human life again!

Page 11: the highway snaps like a locker room towel under Bruce's bike.  No matter...it "must have been one of those tremors they have out here."  So much for the next generation of "world's greatest detectives."  Bruce Jr wouldn't know a good mystery when it snaps him on the butt like a concrete whip!

Page 12: Bruce Jr. tells Clark Jr to hurry up and change into fighting togs like he's already done...faster than a man of steel and in the space of one panel while operating a motorcycle!

Page 21: Batman mourns for his son..."buried here in this duplicate death trap."  And yet Superman said earlier that this version of the city would disappear eventually.  Wouldn't it have been better to bury the kids in the "real" world?  Or better yet in their own home towns?  As it is, they run the risk of losing even a grave to visit!

I need an aspirin...


Title: Re: "SAGA of the SUPER-SONS!"
Post by: Super Monkey on July 21, 2003, 04:23:16 PM
This is so cool! I mean it's so over the top in it's insanity that you can't help just love it!


Title: More Haney MADNESS!
Post by: Great Rao on July 22, 2003, 01:16:19 PM
Alright, I've added two more Super-Sons stories:

(http://superman.nu/super-sons/angel/redsun.gif) (http://superman.nu/super-sons/angel/)
"The Angel with a DIRTY NAME!" (http://superman.nu/super-sons/angel/)

and Haney's latest:

(http://superman.nu/super-sons/nomore/bigdad.gif) (http://superman.nu/super-sons/nomore/)
"Superman Jr. is NO MORE!" (http://superman.nu/super-sons/nomore/)

:s:


Title: Re: "SAGA of the SUPER-SONS!"
Post by: Klar Ken T5477 on July 23, 2003, 12:11:19 AM
Please no more-- those super saps are sucking up bandwidth that could be better served for some silver age go-go checkered sagas!


Title: Re: "SAGA of the SUPER-SONS!"
Post by: The Starchild on July 23, 2003, 11:03:36 AM
Maybe, but I'm glad that I finally got a chance to read "Superman Jr is no more".  There are only 1500 copies of that comic book in the world, and I sure won't be able to get a copy of my own any time soon.  :?

Thank you, oh great Rao!  :D

"Peace and brotherhood be with you!"


Title: Re: "SAGA of the SUPER-SONS!"
Post by: Aldous on July 31, 2003, 03:18:57 PM
(http://superman.nu/super-sons/nomore/banner.gif)

I can't believe this bloke is STILL whining after thirty years!


Title: Re: "SAGA of the SUPER-SONS!"
Post by: Super Monkey on July 31, 2003, 04:40:25 PM
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I can't believe this bloke is STILL whining after thirty years!


Yeah, who does he think he is, the post-crisis Superman?

Just kidding, Superman Jr. isn't that bad ;)


Title: Re: "SAGA of the SUPER-SONS!"
Post by: The Starchild on July 31, 2003, 05:34:02 PM
Quote from: "Aldous"

I can't believe this bloke is STILL whining after thirty years!

As much as I like the Super-Sons and as much as I like this story, I find it unbelievable that DC asked Bob Haney to write a new Super-Sons story the very same year that they turned down Elliot S! Maggin's Krypto story for being what they thought was too silly an idea :roll:


Title: Re: "SAGA of the SUPER-SONS!"
Post by: Aldous on August 02, 2003, 02:31:41 AM
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I can't believe this bloke is STILL whining after thirty years!


Not only that... His father, instead of giving him a super-spanking and telling him to wake up to himself, INDULGES the little brat!  :roll:

 :s:

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The Starchild:

As much as I like the Super-Sons and as much as I like this story, I find it unbelievable that DC asked Bob Haney to write a new Super-Sons story the very same year that they turned down Elliot S! Maggin's Krypto story for being what they thought was too silly an idea


Tell me more. I haven't heard about this.


Title: Re: "SAGA of the SUPER-SONS!"
Post by: The Starchild on August 02, 2003, 12:12:40 PM
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Tell me more. I haven't heard about this.

See http://superman.nu/a/Novels/starwinds.php


Title: Aspirations
Post by: valdemar on August 02, 2003, 03:30:02 PM
Quote from: "Aldous"

Quote from: "The Starchild"

I find it unbelievable that DC asked Bob Haney to write a new Super-Sons story the very same year that they turned down Elliot S! Maggin's Krypto story for being what they thought was too silly an idea

Tell me more. I haven't heard about this.

Elliot used to write Superman (as I'm sure we all know).  Then Crisis/Byrne happened - Elliot was no longer on Superman.  He still did the occasional story for DC (but not on Superman, which was off-limits to him) and then later some editing.  One of the books he edited was Challengers of the Unknown.  In one issue of Challengers, he ignored Mike Carlin's rules (http://superman.nu/tales2/truth/about.php) about Superman (who was making a guest appearance) in order to follow his own conscience about the character.  I would surmise that he felt he know more about Superman than Carlin did.

So Elliot was fired from DC for not following Carlin's orders.

A few years later, Mark Waid asked Elliot to write the Kingdom Come novel.  At first Elliot said no, then he changed his mind when (A) he discovered that Waid had dedicated the series to him and (B) DC told him that they would reprint his earlier Superman novels in a boxed set with extra stuff included.

He was now talking with the folks at DC again.  Joey Cavalieri was the new Superman editor, and Joey asked Elliot, "Have you got any story ideas?"

In response, Elliot basically made this pitch (http://superman.nu/a/krypto/aspirations.php) - his story about Krypto.

At which point, "The Powers That Be" at DC burst out laughing and said, "no, seriously Elliot, do you have any story ideas?"

I'm pretty sure the Kingdom Come novel was the last work he did for them.