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Title: Should Kon-El be fully Kryptonian?
Post by: Defender on January 10, 2004, 01:22:15 PM
I've been giving this a lot of thought lately, and after much consideration I've come to the conclusion that I dislike Kon's current status quo. Tactile telekenesis was fun for awhile, but of late it (and his current costume) have bugged me as a little too X-Men for my taste.

 So I put it before you, the STTA Science Council; should Superboy become 100% Kryptonian, with all the power that implies? It wouldn't contradict Kal-El being Krypton's official Last Son, but wouldn't it make more sense for the inheritor of the Superman legacy to be at his predecessor's power level? Why or why not?

 -Def. :)


Title: Re: Should Kon-El be fully Kryptonian?
Post by: Just a fan on January 10, 2004, 06:10:03 PM
Yes I think he should be, I'm not sure how they will do it, but I'm thinking with the current legion story line thay might come up with a way for it to happen, that would also lend itself to the legion getting back to being inspired by the legend of Superboy.  And it removes the road block of,  "You know Superboy always survives because he grew up to be Superman"

One way to do would be for darksied to bring kon to just about dead and the only way to save him is an infusion of Clarks cells or blood,  then considereing Kon's already altered DNA  it could adapt and bring him to full or almost full Krytonian status.  


What ya think??


Title: Re: Should Kon-El be fully Kryptonian?
Post by: Sam on January 20, 2004, 05:41:24 PM
Isn't that too late? Unless anyone could wipe DC world and create new Superman and Superboy again? :lol:


Title: Re: Should Kon-El be fully Kryptonian?
Post by: TriSaber on January 23, 2004, 11:08:15 PM
I voted No. But here's why.

Simply put, it's been well-established that Superboy is not exactly a genetic duplicate of Superman, which gives him a sort of uniqueness that sets him apart from the Man of Steel. However, what's needed here is a serious attitude adjustment as well as a significatnt power boost for our friend Kon-El. As Defender points out (and as I've said many times myself), there really can be no Legion of Super-Heroes without a Superboy to inspire them. Should Superboy's powers become identical to Superman's? I would say not really. But if they were to be boosted to the level of, say, Black Zero from the "Hyper-Tension" story arc, then that would be enough. Also, Superboy has to really stop acting like an overly horny ass all the time and try to be more mature and responsible. If these two things are done, then Superboy could become a worthy successor to the legacy of the Man of Tomorrow.


Title: Re: Should Kon-El be fully Kryptonian?
Post by: Defender on January 24, 2004, 04:46:58 PM
Good thoughts Tri. I agree that Superboy has some serious growing up to do, but it just doesn't seem right that he's always going to seem Superman's inferior in the powers department. I just wish there was a way we could see in Kon the potential to be all that Clark is. . .and then some, in the not too distant future.

 -Def.


Title: Re: Should Kon-El be fully Kryptonian?
Post by: sungodsavior on March 21, 2004, 08:22:39 PM
I kinda like that superboy is made up of 50% Kal=el and 50% Lex.  It gives him a duality.  For all we know while he is young he is going to be more like Superman.  He is just finding out who he is.  At first all he knew about him self was that he was a clone of Superman.  So he went for the hero stuff.

Now he knows that he has some Lex (or a compacity to be real evil) in him.  Maybe as he grows up we will see more of the luthor in him.  Who knows he could be Kal-el's worst enemy in the future. :twisted:

Also what do you think Kal-el will do when he finds out that Kon-el is 50% Lex :?:


Title: Re: Should Kon-El be fully Kryptonian?
Post by: Dylan Clearbrook on April 19, 2004, 09:31:11 PM
I voted no myself.  My reasoning is more with my personal tastes and the fact that I am still a fan of the original Superboy.

I dislike the way Kon-El is written (I am being nice here :)  I usually just call him superpunk)

Now having said that, I would be willing to change my vote were Kon-El written with less of a punk look and attitude.

So my vote is based purely on my personal preferences about the characters.

Dylan


Title: Re: Should Kon-El be fully Kryptonian?
Post by: Defender on May 01, 2004, 04:43:30 PM
I initially loathed Kon's character when he first came onstage during the Reign of the Supermen debacle, but of late I'm beginning to see some potential to the character. He'll never be the kind of hero that the Silver Age Superboy was, but in the pages of Teen Titans I've been coming to like the character of Kon-El/Connor Kent. He's a guy who's really trying to live up to Superman's ideal, but he doesn't have the level of skill and maturity that a true 16-18 year old would have. I mean chronologically he's barely five years old, given the vagaries of comic book/real time. I guess I'm just the typical wannabe writer who feels there are no bad characters, just characters lacking a writer who taps their potential. Connor's still waiting on his, though Johns seems to have his own spin which might prove interesting. Time will tell. :)

 -Def.


Title: Re: Should Kon-El be fully Kryptonian?
Post by: stephens_666 on May 19, 2004, 02:12:47 AM
No, he should stay 50/50,Clark and Lex,it will make people look at him twice before trusting him.
Not to mention his telekinesis is awesome.[/img]


Title: Re: Should Kon-El be fully Kryptonian?
Post by: stephens_666 on May 19, 2004, 02:23:13 AM
Idont see Superboy growing up to be Superman,but something different.


Title: Re: Should Kon-El be fully Kryptonian?
Post by: stephens_666 on May 25, 2004, 12:45:50 AM
Superboy will grow up to be called POWERMAN and wear his black and red colors on his last supersuit he had in his own book.He's powers will be enormous,he'll have heat vision,superhearing,and his huge telekinetic power that will make him  as powerful as Superman.


Title: Re: Should Kon-El be fully Kryptonian?
Post by: Gor-el on June 25, 2004, 11:15:27 AM
I say yes. I makes little sense to me that they couldn't clone Kryptonian DNA, heck Auron had a copy. I makes far more sense to me that they managed to aquire a single cell and stimulated is growth. I think it stretches credibility that human and kryptonian DNA should be compatible.

Going by the 'Critical Condition' storyline, kryptonian don't even have the same organs as humans.


Title: Re: Should Kon-El be fully Kryptonian?
Post by: lonewolf23k on August 21, 2005, 12:34:01 PM
I voted yes, because I don't like the whole 50% Luthor concept at all.  It kind of spoils the concept of Superboy being thrust into the role of "Superman's heir", because then it offers a whole other destiny.  Then, instead of Superboy stories being about coping with the Superman legacy and having to live up to it's expectations, it becomes yet another "having to fight the temptation go turn to the Dark Side" story...


Title: Re: Should Kon-El be fully Kryptonian?
Post by: Gangbuster on August 21, 2005, 01:29:09 PM
Remember that episode of "The Tick" where they couldn't get tissue samples of him because he was invulnerable, so they used his mucus to clone him instead?

Kon-El should be 100 percent Kryptonian boogers.


Title: Re: Should Kon-El be fully Kryptonian?
Post by: DoctorZero on August 26, 2005, 10:47:44 AM
I think they've messed the character up by making him 50% Lex.  I'm at the point where I wish they would get rid of him and bring in a new Superboy.


Title: Re: Should Kon-El be fully Kryptonian?
Post by: dto on August 26, 2005, 12:04:15 PM
Quote from: "DoctorZero"
I think they've messed the character up by making him 50% Lex.  I'm at the point where I wish they would get rid of him and bring in a new Superboy.


Isn't that what Crises are for?   :wink:

I'm not predicting that Conner will "meet his Maker" (whomever he REALLY is) during Infinite Crisis, but perhaps we'll see yet another retcon of his origin -- he may be shifting from one origin to another just like Power Girl is currently doing.

So I won't be surprised if a "new' Superboy somehow emerges from the impending Crisis.  But considering my lukewarm reaction to the "new" Supergirl, I'm painfully reminded of the old adage, "Be careful what you wish for..."   :(


Title: Re: Should Kon-El be fully Kryptonian?
Post by: DoctorZero on August 26, 2005, 03:22:54 PM
That's something I didn't think of but in Superboy's case I wish they would redo him in Infinite Crisis.  I think the charcter has been damaged irrepairably with the Lex 50% dna thing.