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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2005, 06:39:22 PM »

OK guys, here's Part IV.

Temple Life, I never believed in revealing spoilers (although someone else may be happy to oblige you), so I'm just going to say that if you want to know what the story is about, read Part I and you'll get the whole set-up.  You may also want to read this thread about the story.

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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2005, 05:24:43 PM »

?... Good story Rao, but how is Supergirl referring to Kal as her cousin in the MOS continuity?!
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2005, 03:06:51 AM »

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?... Good story Rao, but how is Supergirl referring to Kal as her cousin in the MOS continuity?!

What are you talking about, they've always been cousins.

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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2005, 05:47:53 PM »

Starchild, until the "new" Birthright-era Kara Zor-El arrived in Superman/Batman #8, the Post-Crisis Supergirls were NOT Kryptonian nor true blood cousins of Superman.  Matrix (the Man of Steel-era Supergirl) came from the same "Pocket Universe" that John Byrne hastilly created to provide the Post-Crisis Legion of Super-Heroes with a Superboy, since his Man of Steel Superman got his full powers in his late teens and thus was never a Superboy.

Matrix was actually an artificial protoplasmic being created by a good Lex Luthor (a nod to the old story where a boy Luthor cooked up a protoplasm experiment, but landed up losing his hair and blaming Superboy for it).  "She" was originally modeled after Lex's late wife Lana Lang Luthor (sometimes morphing into her likeness), but her usual appearance was a blonde Supergirl, substituting as the protector of the Pocket Universe's Earth after the disappearance of Superboy.  (He died heroically in a Legion storyline.)

The Pocket Universe Earth was destroyed by the three Phantom Zone criminals, who were then EXECUTED by Superman, a HIGHLY controversial act that still draws fire from Superman fans today -- it's still not clear whether these killings have been erased in the new Birthright history.  The only survivor was Matrix, who had reverted to her original protoplasmic state.  (She tended to do this when seriously injured, thus gaining the derisive nickname "Goo-Girl" from still-resentful Kara fans.)  Superman brought her back home to Smallville, where the Kents nursed "Mae" back to health and got her accustomed to her new Earth.  So even though she wasn't Kryptonian, the Matrix Supergirl was considered part of the family and saw Superman as her "cousin".  

This relationship continued after Matrix merged with Linda Lee Danvers during the Peter David Supergirl series (though with all the changes PAD did to this character one could consider the Matrix/Linda Supergirl as separate from the original Byrne creation), since originally Linda didn't want to reveal to Clark that something happened to Matrix.  Linda finally had to explain herself after Matrix was separated in Supergirl #50, leaving Linda unable to transform and forced to don a makeshift uniform (modeled after the animated Kara In-Ze version).  Despite this, Superman still considered Linda "part of the family" until she abruptly resigned after Many Happy Returns.
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2005, 06:47:39 PM »

Wow, that's a pretty good rundown, dto.   Admirable job, but you left out the Lee/Fallen Angel stuff and *ack* her disgusting and misguided affair with Earth-0's evil Lex (how easily we forget!).  :roll:

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Proof positive that said character wasn't Superman, since Superman doesn't kill.  Further, post-Zero Hour, the Pocket Universe never existed, so Matrix had no origin, hence she couldn't have existed.  We therefore had a character who wasn't Superman, who had executed 3 criminals that never existed in a universe that never existed, yet who still agonized over it; and a female-like creature who never existed either.  Anyone who tried to buy into all that deserved whatever they got.

Now, however, we have the post-Birthright continuity, where Superman and Supergirl have always been Kryptonian cousins - just as they've been since 1959.  You're talking about the pre-Birthright "continuity" - if that's what you want to call it. Wink

Anyway, Great Rao's presentation of Identity Crisis reads Great to me!
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2005, 07:24:58 PM »

Starchild, my post was already getting long, so I omitted the Matrix/Lex affair (actually I've been trying HARD to forget it ever happened)  :wink:  , and we're still not certain Linda became Lee in Fallen Angel.  And with the recent cancellation of this series, we may never will unless Peter David finally confesses on the last panel of Issue #20.

And actually I was trying to protect fellow board posters by NOT being a completist and mentioning the "Supergirl Troika" of Cir-El, Traci Thirteen and Natasha (Steel) Irons.  (Sorry, folks!)   :wink:   It still turns my stomach that DC cancelled Peter David's series (effectively bumping off BOTH the Many Happy Returns Kara Zor-El AND Linda Lee Danvers in favor of Cir-El the Much-Despised), and THEN stealing PAD's idea of a Supergirl "Blonde Justice" team of Linda, Kara and Power Girl.  Fortunately, the "Supergirls" experiment flopped, forcing DC to make a hasty about-face and "returning" a Kryptonian cousin Kara.
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2005, 01:28:32 PM »

Quote from: "Kal's Pal"
?... Good story Rao, but how is Supergirl referring to Kal as her cousin in the MOS continuity?!

An excellent question Pal, and a most astute observation.

Who ever claimed this was the MOS continuity?

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« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2005, 03:47:02 PM »

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Quote from: "Kal's Pal"
?... Good story Rao, but how is Supergirl referring to Kal as her cousin in the MOS continuity?!

An excellent question Pal, and a most astute observation.

Who ever claimed this was the MOS continuity?

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LMAO! Good fun read too! Cheesy
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