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Author Topic: RUMOR: Brando to play Jor-El again?  (Read 6834 times)
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2005, 01:41:09 PM »

They'll have to use cgi, because if they plan on making more then just 1 new movie and want to use Jor-El in them they'll soon run out of old footage of him.
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2005, 07:26:39 AM »

Well, at least he's not doing commercials like so many other dead celebrities.

God knows, they sure did PAY Brando enough for his part, that's for sure. For what they paid him, there ought to be in a can somewhere, Warner Brothers footage of Brando as Jor-El, tap dancing.

I'm not certain that I agree with the decision of placing Brando as Jor-El again. No disrespect intended against an actor of Brando's stature, but Brando was obviously sleepwalking (and possibly drunk - it wouldn't surprise me, with those hardcore professional Hollywood types) during his Jor-El performance. The one that really ought to be restored to future editions of the Superman story is the very graceful and classy actress that played Superman's mother Lara. Her sad, teary goodbye and performance was what "sold" the scene and made one get a lump in the throat. "He'll be different...a freak." Wow. Compare how much effort, how much energy and emotion and sadness she has next to the frigid, indifferent Brando. It was this actress, whose name I regret forgetting, that made these scenes work, not the sleepy-eyed Brando.

Though seeing Brando with the Superman hair and forehead curl was pretty cool, I must say.
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2005, 02:53:34 AM »

To be fair, Brando's involvement led to people and studios willing to fork over the bucks to do Superman right.  He was worth his 11% cut of the movie.
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2005, 10:19:07 AM »

Most likely true, but Brando's participation also established an expensive precedent for the Super-movies that ultimately helped kill the franchise.  The producers' over-reliance on outrageously paid celebrities in miscast supporting roles or nanosecond cameos became a laughable gimmick very quickly, drained production funds better spent elsewhere (namely screenwriting) and ruined the necessary "suspension of disbelief".  Who could "believe a man can fly" when the audience couldn't accept the casting of Superman's "deadly enemies" as legitimate threats?  I realize Richard Pryor was a star comedian back when "Superman III" was filmed, but pairing him with Superman was a foreseeable disaster.  And let's overlook Faye Dunaway and Peter O'Toole dreadful perfomances in "Supergirl" -- was it REALLY necessary to hire Michael York and Mia Farrow to play Kara's parents?  "Supergirl" was already starved for cash after "Superman III" bombed, so paying York and Farrow for their all-too-brief appearances was an unjustified extravagance.

So persuading Marlon Brando to play Jor-El was an expensive gamble that initially paid off.  But repeating this formula with other actors (none close to Brando's near-godlike mystique) progressively doomed the entire franchise.
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2005, 03:01:30 PM »

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So persuading Marlon Brando to play Jor-El was an expensive gamble that initially paid off.  But repeating this formula with other actors (none close to Brando's near-godlike mystique) progressively doomed the entire franchise.

Nope.  They got rid of Donner.  That's what doomed the franchise.  All the other sins follow from that cardinal sin.  

Everyone else involved -- Richard Lester (light comedy background), the Neumans (who became involved through Superman: The Musical), David Odell (the Muppets) and the Salkinds -- wanted to produce campy Superman and Supergirl movies.  While it was abundantly clear that the cinematic Superman/girl worked best "straight", with only sporadic bits of mild camp and corniness as a lightening contrast, the Salkinds wanted what they thought would be laughs and levity.  They acquired what they thought were the right pieces, got what they felt they wanted, and it sucked.
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2012, 10:47:08 PM »

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