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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2005, 05:51:04 PM »

Urgh!  I remember that Silver Age story.

Red Son is a Post Crisis Elseworlds story so the flippancy and silliness of some of the Silver Age doesn't apply.

Even if we discount the different eras, Red Son has Superman and Lois being blood relations.  That supercourtship story has only a lookalike Kara and not a true blood-relation so it's just a tad less creepy.

But not by much.
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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2005, 06:25:04 PM »

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What's disturbing is how Superman and Lois were attracted to each other in Red Son given how Lois is actually his own ancestor.

Is it any more disturbing than Kara setting Kal up with women who look exactly like her?

At least it's not as strange when Linda Lee poped in to his mind as a possible life partner in the Day of Doom http://superman.nu/tales4/DayOfDoom/?page=3
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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2005, 06:59:43 AM »

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It seems to me that Krypton being descended from only two people would have some problems. Maybe it was just a myth?


I agree, to me, that harkens back to Romulus and Remus establishing Rome more than Adam and Eve...
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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2005, 04:49:13 AM »

Wow! This topic is meandering all about.

Regarding Kryp & Tonn: The story of Kryp and Tonn may have been a legend or it may have been the invention of the teacher Du-Vor. He may have been the Cary Bates of Krypton! The story is presented as a story, not as a history lesson. In the Krypton Chronicles, Superman couldn't get info further back than Erok, who first used the surname El. Any stories from before that time are unverifiable.

Regarding Luma Lynai: Was she known as "Superwoman" on her world? Is that what the "S" on her uniform stands for? Did she ever appear in another story?

Regarding the original topic: It seems to me that Kryptonians, Thanagarians, Rannians, and many others (like some of the Legionnaires) were also considered to be humans just like Terrans. I'm not sure the Martians (like J'onn J'onzz) or Durlans (like Chameleon Boy) were considered to be humans, but they might be. They were certainly humanoids.
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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2005, 02:52:13 AM »

I tend to support Spaceman Spiff's idea that the story of Kryp and Tonn was just a legend retold by Du-Vor to get children in his class to settle down. The idea that two races possessing advanced technology settled on Krypton, then reverted to a stone-age period where they would have to reinvent the wheel, so to speak, is more than a little strange.
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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2005, 03:40:50 PM »

While the Kryp & Tonn story may be only legend, the colonization of Krypton from outside is supported by Maggin's Superman: Last Son of Krypton and Tales of the Legion of Super-Heroes #325 (Mon-El tells Ultra Boy Daxam colonized Krypton).

Green Lantern #35, Vol. 3 (Jan. 1993) describes the Great Humanoid Diaspora of around 5 million B.C.  This helps explain the compatibilities of most DCU human/humanoid races, and may be related to the Daxam/Krypton link above.
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2005, 09:10:06 PM »

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While the Kryp & Tonn story may be only legend, the colonization of Krypton from outside is supported by Maggin's Superman: Last Son of Krypton and Tales of the Legion of Super-Heroes #325 (Mon-El tells Ultra Boy Daxam colonized Krypton).

What exactly did Mon-El say about Daxam colonizing Krypton specifically?

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Green Lantern #35, Vol. 3 (Jan. 1993) describes the Great Humanoid Diaspora of around 5 million B.C.  This helps explain the compatibilities of most DCU human/humanoid races, and may be related to the Daxam/Krypton link above.

What was the "Great Humanoid Disaporia"?
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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2005, 03:56:27 PM »

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While the Kryp & Tonn story may be only legend, the colonization of Krypton from outside is supported by Maggin's Superman: Last Son of Krypton and Tales of the Legion of Super-Heroes #325 (Mon-El tells Ultra Boy Daxam colonized Krypton).

What exactly did Mon-El say about Daxam colonizing Krypton specifically?


I have to paraphrase since I don't have the book at work, but when Jo asked which world was the original and which the colony, Mon said they (the Daxamites) might be accused of chauvinism, but he was taught in school that Daxam was the parent world.  Dev-Em -- still a Kryptonian survivor in this era -- woke up from K-poisoning at that moment to argue, no way he's claiming Mon-El as his long lost daddy.

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Green Lantern #35, Vol. 3 (Jan. 1993) describes the Great Humanoid Diaspora of around 5 million B.C.  This helps explain the compatibilities of most DCU human/humanoid races, and may be related to the Daxam/Krypton link above.

What was the "Great Humanoid Disaporia"?


Basically, this was a seeding of worlds with humanoids in this era.  That means most if not all humans/humanoids came from a common source dating back to this event.
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