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« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2005, 06:29:21 PM »

I think GL/GA predates the Englehart Captain America stuff, but in general, points taken. (As for Nixon, well, life imitates art, and vice-versa.)

As far as the political orientations in comics, I think you always have to make certain allowances because of the nature of comics. In comics, it's a given that the most important crises are solved by a few main characters. These characters are more powerful/skillful/effective than anybody else in the story except maybe their opponents. Usually our heroes are doing what they do for selfless reasons, and most of the time there's no question that they can be trusted.

In real life I'd be very worried about someone who walks around with an arsenal on his back and won't tell anyone who he really is. Yet this does not keep me from reading and enjoying Iron Man.

So I generally have no problem with Miller's work, even though I'm pretty far left of center myself.
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« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2005, 07:12:08 PM »

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I think GL/GA predates the Englehart Captain America stuff, but in general, points taken. (As for Nixon, well, life imitates art, and vice-versa.)



Also, Squadron Supreme was after GL/GA, not just Nomad.
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« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2005, 03:50:13 AM »

Didn't the JSA do some "relevance" stories in All-Star Comics?  And the JLA back in the Gardner Fox/Mike Sekowsky days?  

"Man, Thy Name Is Brother" is the only tale that comes to mind right now, but I just got off a 12-hour shift at work, and I'm feeling pretty fuzzy-brained right now.  Wink
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« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2005, 04:08:36 AM »

Actually, erm.. guys, this all REALLY started with the Golden Age Superman. Who was all about fighting real life social and political injustices, rather than super-powered villains and space aliens, that came later Smiley
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« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2005, 04:10:26 AM »

It just goes to show (AGAIN!) that so much of what has been given us by Green Lantern, Batman, and others is because of our favorite!  Wink
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« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2005, 04:23:39 AM »

and you don't have to look very far to find it.

In Superman No. 1 Smiley

There is a story about Mine Workers.
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« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2005, 10:13:36 AM »

There have been suggestions, most recently by Gerald Jones in Men of Tomorrow, that the Mine Workers story was not a Superman story originally (maybe G-Men or Slam Bradley?) since it features Clark in civvies and hardly any Superman.
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« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2005, 02:25:40 PM »

Perhaps this story could also provide a glimpse into what Siegel and Shuster's earlier, pre-costume "The Superman" was like.

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