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Author Topic: IC#2 - those last pages are something -lots of spoilers here  (Read 33801 times)
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« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2005, 01:22:58 AM »

But you are stilling missing the point that in the new Earth-Prime that is controlling all that happens on the Iron Age Earth, the writers and artists there are not as good as the ones in the pre-crisis Earth-Prime, and thus the symbol is drawn wrong. It's part of the plot I tell ya Wink
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« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2005, 01:48:15 AM »

Maybe the Earth-Two Superman should come to Earth-Prime with a Phantom Zone projector and clean out the DC offices.
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« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2005, 01:51:02 AM »

Hmm...

Re: the E-2 Supes taking out Mr. Atom easily:

I'd imagine that the *pre-Crisis* Mr. Atom would've been tougher for the E-2 Supes to take on, since I'd assume the post-Crisis Atom, like Capt. Marvel and Superman, have been powered down from pre-Crisis levels...

>>INFINITE CRISIS #5
Written by Geoff Johns
Art by Phil Jimenez & Andy Lanning
Covers by Jim Lee & Sandra Hope and George Pérez
The DCU shakes apart as Superman of Earth 2 finally confronts our Superman. Meanwhile, heroes are disappearing throughout the DC Universe, a transformed villain returns, and the mystics of every world and dimension seek help from the very Spirit that is destroying them. Retailers please note: This issue will ship with covers by Lee & Hope (approximately 50%) and Pérez (approximately 50%).
On sale February 15 • 5 of 7 • 40 pg, FC, $3.99 US
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It took until issue #5 of this thing for E-2 Supes to finally confront his post-Crisis doppelganger? Wonder why meeting up with him wasn't a main priority...

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SUPERMAN #226
Written by Joe Kelly
Art by Tim Sale, Ed Benes and Dan Jurgens
Cover by Ed McGuinness
Part 1 of “This Is Your Life, Superman,” a 3-part tale
running through all three Superman titles in February! Witness the arrival of Kal-L, the Last Son of Krypton! Learn how he grew up to be the greatest hero of Earth-2. This issue includes a special origin album by Jeph Loeb & Tim Sale, the creative team behind SUPERMAN FOR ALL SEASONS!
On sale February 1 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US


ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN #649
Written by Joe Kelly
Art by Karl Kerschl, Ed Benes and Dan Jurgens
Cover by Ivan Reis & Marc Campos
The conclusion to the 3-part “This Is Your Life, Superman!”
Relive the climactic adventure of Earth-2’s Man of Steel as his world falls apart during the events of the original CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS.
On sale Feb 15 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US

ACTION COMICS #836
Written by Joe Kelly
Art by Ed Benes and Dan Jurgens
Cover by Mark Schultz
Part 2 of the 3-part “This Is Your Life, Superman!” Superman
is caught by the one person he can’t defeat: Lois Lane! Witness the undying love story of the greatest couple of Earth-2, and how their love could bring about the end of the universe.
On sale Feb 8 • 32 pg, FC, $2.50 US
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Hmm... from the remarks by other posters, I smell retcons a-comin'. Since, of course, just reprinting "Action Comics" #484 and 1986's "Secret Origins" #1 (plus all those "Mr. and Mrs. Superman" stories in "Superman Family") wouldn't be sufficient enough... *cough*<Nevada has his wallet out for "Mr. & Mrs. Superman" reprints>*cough*...  ;-)
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« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2005, 02:08:02 AM »

Yes, I would think the meeting between the two Supermen would have occured earlier.  Strange that they have put it off until then.
I suspect this Infinite Crisis is yet another excuse to explain how certain characters have been rebooted and changed, like the infamous new Doom Patrol reboot.
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« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2005, 02:54:47 AM »

ok , maybe i  missed the point, but just for fun

this is the family tree
On  the old earth 2... they had a Bruce Wayne /Batman too, who was born in an earlier era than the current Earth 1 Batman who began his Batman Carreer in the last 5 or 10 years. Bruce fell in love with Selina.
 Bruce Wayne married Selina Kyle (Catwoman)
and their daughter was:
Helena Wayne (The Huntress) [Similar to in the wonderful but defunct "BIRDS OF PREY" tv series. Eventually Bruce, Selina, and even the Joker are missing or presumed dead.  The Arch foe of The Huntress is Doctor Harley Quinn, Psychiatrist and secretly a kingpin of crime in Gotham City. ]
on earth 2 Batman retires and Dick takes on the Batman identity.(In Batman Beyond and in Justice League Unlimited of course this is told differently, and Terry McGinnis, the clone of Bruce Wayne is the successor of the Batman mantle with Bruce continuing on as an advisor a la Oracle by radio)
Bruce Wayne retires and Robin (Dick Grayson) becomes the new Batman
He wears a different costume than Batman did though.
This of course it totally different from the alternate earth where there is a Batman Jr. and a Superman Jr.
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« Reply #45 on: November 13, 2005, 04:24:36 AM »

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INFINITE CRISIS #5
Written by Geoff Johns
Art by Phil Jimenez & Andy Lanning
Covers by Jim Lee & Sandra Hope and George Pérez
The DCU shakes apart as Superman of Earth 2 finally confronts our Superman. Meanwhile, heroes are disappearing throughout the DC Universe, a transformed villain returns, and the mystics of every world and dimension seek help from the very Spirit that is destroying them. Retailers please note: This issue will ship with covers by Lee & Hope (approximately 50%) and Pérez (approximately 50%).


You know they're going to play this as E-2 Superman being the bad guy and Iron Age Superman as the good guy. The notion that Superman's behavior of late is unbecoming would cause DC's collective head to implode.

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Apparently, the only people that can ever have bad ideas are Silver Age writers.


Golden Age writers/artists don't get off any better. The attitude now is that everything begins with John Byrne and Frank Miller and every single thing before that was "Silver Age camp," even stuff from the 1930s.
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« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2005, 07:36:11 AM »

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Apparently, the only people that can ever have bad ideas are Silver Age writers.


Golden Age writers/artists don't get off any better. The attitude now is that everything begins with John Byrne and Frank Miller and every single thing before that was "Silver Age camp," even stuff from the 1930s.


Which explains why Didio is gleefully going on a killing rampage.

Someone on the DC message board once compared Didio to a serial murderer when it came to the DC characters.  A single death(Sue Dibny, Firestorm, Jack Drake) or a team(Freedom Fighters) with each time a death takes place.

I have the bad feeling that part of Infinite Crisis is to take out the last intact Bronze Age heroine: Amethyst: Princess of Gemworld.  She violates everything DC stands for.  She is a powerful woman who has retained her powers and does have a somewhat happy ending with her daughter living on Earth.  She's more powerful than Superman.  Women in DC should be depowered, raped, killed, have no happiness, and no family.  No hero should be more powerful than Superman.  No heroine should be more powerful than Wonder Woman.
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« Reply #47 on: November 13, 2005, 08:25:43 AM »

Wait, isn't Perez doing anything but alternate covers?  Now it doesn't even rate a free look or "standing at the comic rack read".
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