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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2005, 08:45:42 PM »

In the animated series pilot Luthor ( like in the "man of steel" mini-series) tried to recruit superman.  He saw him as a potential asset in achieving his long-term goals.  His early plans involved trying to control Superman.  When that didn't work, Lex decided to kill him instead.  How about this?  Lex hates Kal, because Kal is Lex's biggest obstacle.  But, at the same time Lex enjoys the challenge Kal represents.  Basically Lex wants his victory to be a monument to his genius.
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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2005, 12:09:40 AM »

Superman is Yin
Lex is Yang
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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2005, 03:48:05 PM »

that's lex's modus operandi

seize power any way possible
this includes corruption, temptation, seduction and bribery
He believes everybody has their price and for the right amount or price anybody can be made to do the exact opposite of what their morals tell them to do.
Anybody who rejects his bribes like Lois or Superman are only telling lies.
They don't really have higher morals that prevent them from compromising. Nobody is that pure, reasons Lex.
He thinks Superman is being self-righteous when he rejects Luthor's offer of employment. He thinks Superman is planning to use his super powers instead to rule mankind, not help them altruistically.
1. The love of money is the root  of all evil
2. Money is a shadow of power over people and power to get people to do things.
3. The love of power is the root of evil too.
4. once you get enough power, enough is never enough: greed and lust
5. power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

This is what drives Lex. he lusts for money and power. He simply cannot believe Superman's power has not corrupted him.
In this way Superman is a type or figure of the Lord Jesus Christ who was tempted in all things yet without sin and who when the Tempter offered him all the power of the kingdoms of the world ( if he would only worship Satan),
he responded:
" Get behind me, (Get lost!) Satan! For it is written, you shall worship the Lord your God and Him only will you serve."
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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2005, 03:49:23 PM »

In that JLA/Avengers crossover Kurt Busiek at one point had Dr. Doom attempt to gain access to the Source.  He almost succeeded.  Lex Luthor should be doing things like that.  The best Luthor stories are when he has big goals & does big things.  Like "the man who stole the sun.".  Lex Luthor when done right should have many goals.  Destroying Superman should be only one of his objectives.
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« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2005, 12:37:23 AM »

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In that JLA/Avengers crossover Kurt Busiek at one point had Dr. Doom attempt to gain access to the Source.  He almost succeeded.  Lex Luthor should be doing things like that.  The best Luthor stories are when he has big goals & does big things.  Like "the man who stole the sun.".  Lex Luthor when done right should have many goals.  Destroying Superman should be only one of his objectives.

Agreed. Lex is a "man of tomorrow" himself, a being so intelligent that humans will not ascend to his level for a very, very long time (if ever). I've always liked the idea that Lex would've been the greatest human being ever if Superman had never come to Earth. It's really mythic.
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« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2005, 05:32:11 AM »

I liked that story where Lex finds a cure for cancer, but I can't remember the name or what comic it was in.
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« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2005, 09:07:42 PM »

One of the things I really disliked about the post-Boot Lex was that the public-at-large thought that Luthor was a nice guy, a humanitarian-type; while only Superman knew that Lex was really a manipulating scum-bucket.

I much prefer it when the public-at-large thinks that Lex is an irredeemable scum bucket; yet Superman always gives Lex the benefit of the doubt (where no one else would) and continuously holds out hope that Luthor could redeem himself at any moment and is really a good guy at heart.  I have only seen Elliot Maggin and Grant Morrison treat the characters in this way.

I hope we see more of it.

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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2005, 07:10:48 AM »

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I liked that story where Lex finds a cure for cancer, but I can't remember the name or what comic it was in.
   

Was that in either "Death of Superman" or "The Story of Superman-Red and Superman-Blue"?
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