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Author Topic: The ORIGINS of SUPERMAN  (Read 13775 times)
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2005, 08:48:32 PM »

question: was the action comics #1 giant size published in the 70's added to with some of the 1939 origin? i remeber seeing the needle scene in my copy....
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2005, 10:54:53 AM »

I noticed the 287 page origin story, but wondered whether it was actually a typo, or a mighty huge comic!

I've never read it, but I suspect I'd probably prefer most, if not all the much shorter pre-Crisis origin stories.

But then I've only read about 3-4 post-Crisis Superman stories, compared to more than 500 issues of pre-Crisis Action Comics and Superman comics.
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2005, 11:14:10 AM »

There is one other in the Birth of Superboy, More Fun Comics 101, 1945.

Great Shuster studio art --lots of Wayne Boring???

http://superman.nu/tales3/birthOfSuperboy/
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2005, 02:39:41 AM »

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I noticed the 287 page origin story, but wondered whether it was actually a typo, or a mighty huge comic!

Not a typo.  In fact, the story should be longer but apparently a couple of pages were removed for the graphic novel collection of this 12-issue mini-series.

It's basically one part "Superman the Movie," one part Elliot S! Maggin, and one part Mark Waid.

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There is one other in the Birth of Superboy, More Fun Comics 101, 1945

That depends on whether or not you consider Superman and Superboy to be the same character.   :wink:

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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2005, 07:59:31 PM »

I decided to take Telle's suggestion. I added the 1945 Superboy origin to the collection.

This one has got the best Kryptonian costumes of all of them.

In fact, after reading through all the other origins, I  realized that the Jor-El costume used in All-Star is basically all of the previous Jor-El costumes rolled into one - a massive confluxuation of the Flash Gordon flight-hat outfit from 1945 and the Silver Age headband and the Birthright costume.

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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2005, 09:22:01 PM »

I like it! And of course adding the 1945 origin is appropriate...

I would also point out this origin from 1978, which is one of the best I've read...

Last Son of Krypton! The first five chapters of this book tie the origin in beautifully, from the involvement of Albert Einstein, the Superboy career, childhood relations with Luthor...everything that I consider important in the Superman origin. Take another look:

http://superman.nu/thebook/lsok_contents.php


Then there is "The Greatest Green Lantern of All" from 1972, which added an Oan dimension to Superman's origin. However, I see that it's already in the "Untold Tales of Krypton" section.

There is Superman: The Secret Years (1985?), a 4-issue miniseries that covers the time period that the 287 pages of Birthright missed. I highly recommend it, yet do not own it.

I'm sure that others will come to mind. I'm trying to think of a good 50s origin, but can't. However, there was this great miniseries in 1986 called Man of Steel.

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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2005, 12:32:17 AM »

i'd love to see whatever happen'd without paying thru the nose for it.
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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2005, 02:36:26 AM »

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Then there is "The Greatest Green Lantern of All" from 1972, which added an Oan dimension to Superman's origin. However, I see that it's already in the "Untold Tales of Krypton" section.

It is, but most of the "origin" stories that I've added to the "origins of superman" section already exist elsewhere on the site.  This is just a common access point for all of them.  It's hard to tell whether or not that story counts as a new "origin" or if it's a separate story that happens around the origin.

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There is Superman: The Secret Years (1985?), a 4-issue miniseries that covers the time period that the 287 pages of Birthright missed. I highly recommend it, yet do not own it.

You say you don't own it - have you read it?  To be honest, I think the Frank Miller covers are the best part.

But I do like it, and think it's a prime candidate for Graphic Novel compilation.  It's been on my list to add to STTA for quite some time, but I'd also want to include all the back-up stories that lead into it. (attn DC:  if you do a graphic novel, you should hunt down those lead-in back-up features too)

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I'm sure that others will come to mind. I'm trying to think of a good 50s origin, but can't. However, there was this great miniseries in 1986 called Man of Steel.

Just Kidding.

We've got that covered - you must have missed the "1993" origin.

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