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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2006, 03:54:09 AM »

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If you love gore, then you will love this issue :?

Superboy-Prime meets up with and fights the Iron Age Superboy, and defeats him but the Iron Age Superboy just starts laughing. It seems that he called for some serious back-up, the Teen Titians, JLA, and the Doom Patrol. They all gang up on SB-Prime and look like they are going to defeat him, when SB-Prime snaps and and starts to kill heroes left and right, in a gross and graphic fashion, which would be cool in a horror comic, but just seems grossly out of place seeing Superboy-Prime doing it and to these heroes. Of course, the most shocking death is reserved for the female character where she gets her head knocked off with a backhand which is also known as a "pimp slap". The characters who die are minor characters of course, except for the female, which fans seem to really like of course.

The Multiverse is NOT back, only Earth-2 and all of the former Earth-2 people are zapped to it at the end of the issue.


(Norbert voice from "The Angry Beavers") No...no...no...no...no...no...no...

Geez, pretty stiff price we have to pay just to get Central City and Keystone City back on seperate Earths.

As for "former Earth-2 people" zapped to the "new" Earth-2, wonder if this includes the creation of various Earth-2 duplicates of various mortals (the general population of 6 billion people who aren't superpowered) as well, to populate said world. Though hearing of the above Superboy-Prime-slaughterfest isn't exactly encouraging me to find out via paying for the thing, unfortunately... Undecided
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2006, 06:14:02 AM »

Now that I've actually bought and read the issue, it seems to me that things aren't necessarily as clear-cut as Beppo makes them out to be.  There were some parts I didn't like - the crazed Superboy-Prime spouting a twisted version of Maggin philisophy, for instance; or the E-2 Superman being a Lion in Winter - but it was pretty well written, the various characterizations were pretty accurate (Booster and Skeets especially), and seeing the return of E-2 was a blast.

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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2006, 11:27:11 AM »

Bringing back Earth-2 will CONFUSE many readers. Bad Idea..

Superboy Killing?? Unacceptabe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

Wally west Dying and Barry allen returning BULL$%^^%^%

Anyone who's read the past 20 yeatrs know Wally evolved from a bunkering Barry-worshipping unsure of himself into THE VERY BEST FLASH there ever was (unlike Post-crisis superman, after the Return of Barry allen storyline he had aways been a hero, confidence was NEVER waving and still has that funny side of him)

Unlike Barry Alen who has extremely NO PERSONALITY (say what you want about Plot>>>> Characters.. I even agree on that, but Wally West has BOTH.. Barry only has Plot.. so not a totalpackage and less marketable)
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2006, 04:00:27 PM »

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The Multiverse is NOT back, only Earth-2 and all of the former Earth-2 people are zapped to it at the end of the issue.


ALL of the former Earth-2 people?  We know the heroes from Earth-2 found their histories altered at the end of the first Crisis so they now, supposedly, lived on the same world as the Earth-1 crowd all along...but who else, if anyone, made the move?  Can we assume that average, non-costumed mortals from Earth-2 also found their way onto Earth-1?  Or were they all killed except for the heroes?  If some of them made it, which ones?  The population of "DCU Earth" (or whatever it's been since '86) is not double that of Earth-1 or Earth-2, it's the same as one of those worlds.  That is to say, we didn't go from two Earths with 4 billion humans each to one Earth with 8 billion.  So billions of people must have died.  Were they all on Earth-2 or was it an even ratio of Earth-1 victims and Earth-2 victims?

Logically, if a new Earth-2 is created in issue 4 of this new Crisis, did half the Earth's population, or 2 billion people, go to live on it?  Or was a new Earth-2 created, complete with 4 billion new souls, and then the JSA was cherry-picked off DCU Earth and plopped down on the new Earth-2?

Sorry, you can tell I didn't read this issue.  Are they saying Earth-2 was there all along, just hidden somewhere? Or did they create a new Earth-2?

Also, the JSA is, I gather, more than halfway made up of new members these days.  And the new Dr Midnite, Mr Terrific, etc would logically be people born on DCU Earth.  While it would make sense for Jay and Alan and Carter to go back to Earth-2, where they were born, why would the new members of the JSA be sent there when the only thing tying them to Earth-2 is the name they call themselves while in costume?  I mean, I can say I'm the latest Hourman, but that doesn't mean I belong on Earth-2.
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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2006, 04:18:59 PM »

I don't know. Rao can help you, since he has the issue.
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2006, 04:29:40 PM »

Hope so.

Just saw Robby Reed's review over on Dial B for Blog, including a scan of the infamous Superboy-Prime carnage scene:

http://dialbforblog.com/

Suffice to say, I'm not about to spend money on a book with scenes like this, even if it ushers in a second Silver Age with books drawn by the ghosts of Curt Swan and Gil Kane.  This stuff is pornography for sicko fanboys, pure and simple.  A gore-gasm to be relished by 30-year-old dwellers of parents' basements everywhere.
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2006, 04:32:51 PM »

everything I posted was true, as you can see, I just didn't got into a lot of details for obvious reasons.
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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2006, 02:01:41 AM »

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Hope so.

Just saw Robby Reed's review over on Dial B for Blog, including a scan of the infamous Superboy-Prime carnage scene:

http://dialbforblog.com/

Suffice to say, I'm not about to spend money on a book with scenes like this, even if it ushers in a second Silver Age with books drawn by the ghosts of Curt Swan and Gil Kane.  This stuff is pornography for sicko fanboys, pure and simple.  A gore-gasm to be relished by 30-year-old dwellers of parents' basements everywhere.


Yeurgh... poor Krypto. ("Hey, kids---animal abuse!" Undecided )

Couldn't they have just blown up the cosmic treadmill with some Spectre- and Dr. Fate-backed magical blast while droping it into a temporally-unstable black hole while every super-speedster was vibrating at top speed to bring back Earth-2 or something? Would have to beat what I saw in the panels (and not require Superboy-Prime to go berserk)...
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