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« on: April 21, 2003, 09:05:25 PM »

Here's another tale for the history books:

Tell the Truth!



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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2003, 02:33:17 AM »

I just read the "about" page.  All I can say is

 :shock: WHAAA?

When did DC start thinking that Mike Carlin knows more about SUPERMAN than Elliot Maggin does???

Someone over there must have been smoking something! :crossed:
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2003, 04:14:34 AM »

That Superman was much too intelligent, noble, compassionate, and heroic to be anything other than the pre-crisis Superman! The post crisis Superman would never had said those things and would have never acted that way, so Maggin gets fired for giving us the real deal. Sad
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2003, 01:51:49 AM »

I always have felt that Elliott S! Maggin was the best Superman writer.  He had an understanding of the character, his ablilities, his humanity, his emotional weakness and the way he saw the world and his role in the world.  He wrote Superman stories which stand up today among the best Superman stories of all time.  I also am torn because I honestly like both the pre and post crisis Superman.  I care for the character and I remember too many times when the character was handled without care or understanding.  

The one thing DC did after Crisis was to get a better grip on the overall continuity of their characters including Superman.  Mike Carlin was given more control over the character and his role in the new DC continuity and literally the buck stopped with him.  

That is when DC started thinking Carlin knew more about Superman than Maggin.  I personally wish he could come back and write a Superman series for a year or so and show just how great a writer he still is.
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2003, 03:34:24 PM »

I think Maggin did the right thing with the Challengers story.  It seems to me that Carlin was just upset because he went behind his back.  He might have also thought too that he knew more about Superman than Maggin.  Which is absurd.
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2003, 04:14:17 PM »

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I think Maggin did the right thing with the Challengers story.

So do I, but it's too bad that he lost his job.  Imagine if he was still an editor!

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It seems to me that Carlin was just upset because he went behind his back.

I think Carlin got upset like that a lot.  Mark Waid also used to be an editor at DC Comics, but then he let Kara Zor-El make an appearance in a post-crisis Christmas special.  (It was a fantastic appearance in a great story, and as far as I know it's the only post-crisis Kara appearance other than the recent Peter David story.)  Waid was fired faster than you can blink.

It was years before he did anything at DC again.
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2003, 07:10:53 PM »

If they can fire Mark Waid but then eventually give him a twelve issue Superman series, maybe they'll do the same for Elliot S! Maggin!

That would be incredible! Cool  Then there'd be two must-read books!
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2003, 12:35:08 PM »

Maggin has said that he has no interest in writing comics anymore.  Now if he were to become the editor of the Superman titles that would be fantastic!  
Maybe DC could publish a TPB reprinting Elliot S! Maggin's best Superman stories.    Smiley  S!
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