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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2006, 01:36:49 AM »

Superman's heat vision was able to make stars go nova or even super-nova, depending on the type/size star.  His super-breath was able to "blow out" stars.  Those powers were said to be minor compared to his strength.  It did seem to take all of his strength to move the earth.  However he was able to move bigger planets with greater ease.  Of course it always seemed like he was keeping power levels in check when he was on earth.  Over time his "holding back" reflex probably became automatic.  Thus moving earth would seem to take all his strength.  To do it he had fight his own inhibitions & holding back reflex.  There was never (to my knowledge anyway) any real upper limit set to his speed.  In one story he flew so fast, he literally flew out of the Earth-1 universe.  If not the entire multiverse.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2006, 01:54:12 AM »

Of course this all changed from writer to writer and story to story, if a story called for Superman to snuff a Sun with a puff of his breath then he would, if another needed him to use all his strength to move the Earth he did. Another story could call for him to move 12 planets without straining, so he did. He could knock out a uber powerful giant Monster with a light tap in one story and get knocked around himself by another smaller monster who was far less powerful in another story.

There was never a cannon set power level for Superman Pre-Crisis.
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2006, 08:25:16 AM »

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There was never a cannon set power level for Superman Pre-Crisis.


What about the Ultra-Nikru Cannon  -- the most deadly weapon ever constructed on Krypton -- that fired "super-ammunition"?   :wink:
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2006, 01:54:45 PM »

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Superman's heat vision was able to make stars go nova or even super-nova, depending on the type/size star.  His super-breath was able to "blow out" stars.  Those powers were said to be minor compared to his strength.  It did seem to take all of his strength to move the earth.  However he was able to move bigger planets with greater ease.  Of course it always seemed like he was keeping power levels in check when he was on earth.  Over time his "holding back" reflex probably became automatic.  Thus moving earth would seem to take all his strength.  To do it he had fight his own inhibitions & holding back reflex.


I question the first parts of your statement---or rather, would appreciate you citing a source. I've never known Superman's heat vision to ignite anything but an already artificial star, whose rules for working might be different from what we know. Nor do I remember him ever blowing out a star. (I do remember one story where Superman's powers were amplified by a near-omnipotent alien, where he was AFRAID something like that might happen.) I do remember Superboy moving a group of planets, threaded like beads on a string, but of course it depends on their size---several planets as small as the Moon or even Mars would be relatively easy to move for a being who can move the Earth with all his strength.)

   I'm not, of course, saying you're wrong. Would just appreciate you citing a source. Also the "moving bigger planets"---I can't recall a time when he moved a planet where he mentioned, specfically, it was bigger than Earth.

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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2006, 02:01:04 PM »

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In one story he flew so fast, he literally flew out of the Earth-1 universe.  If not the entire multiverse.


Oh, I DO recall the source for this one. The DC Presents where he's pursuing an unconscious Supergirl and meets the Spectre, right? Where the Spectre mentions that the only barrier he could cross next in his speed was the barrier to the Afterlife, right? But we know so little about that---just as he seems to be able to go back in time if he goes faster than light, there might be a similar effect throwing him out of the "living" dimentions into the land of the dead when he reaches a certain multiple of c. At least the length to the edge of the Milky Way I can measure.---Al
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2006, 03:26:26 PM »

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Nor do I remember him ever blowing out a star.    Thanks!---Al


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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2006, 03:28:11 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2006, 02:08:55 AM »

Actually it was never stated what that last barrier was.  It was only stated that Kal crossing that barrier would cause the destruction of everything.  Or something to that effect.  It was safe for Kara to cross that barrier (according to the Spectre, anyway) because she was unconscious.  Even if that "string" of planets Superboy moved was made up of moon or mars size worlds, that would still add up to moving something bigger than earth. :wink:
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