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Well, I have to say I was more ticked off at wasting my money. I had been told by many that knew my tastes that I would like this new reboot...that it was closer to the original than before.
I hesitated...and finally decided to pick up a copy....because of Supergirl...and the inclusion of Dawnstar etc on the cover.
But this legion is not what I like. A guy on the DC boards gave it the right name....The Logan's Run Legion.....with the only thing missing being the crystals in the palms and the crowds yelling "renew renew renew"!
They showed a few scenes of the old characters....scenes that never happened...showing the old characters having the same sickening anti elder attitudes.
As I stated on the board. I felt this legion was a slap in the face of us older fans (and in my case, any thing after and including the 5 year gap was trash) and an insult to serious science fiction fans with more than three brain cells to rub together.
(I mean sheeesh....they are claiming that the vocal cords of a race of people atrophy in less than a thousand years.....not possible.)
The new motto of the legion, as far as I can tell, is no longer "Long Live the Legion!" it is now "Eat it, Grandpa!"

And of course I spewed this forth on the board...not realizing that Stewart Moore posts there as well...not that it would have changed my words.....
well, maybe I wouldn't have asked what drugs the writers were on and wondered if they had gotten hold of a bad batch

Over all....the this legion does not strike me as super-heroes. They strike me as spoiled brats in a society of spoiled brats where the enemy is not the fatal five, etc....but rather mom and dad.
Dylan
I have a few objections to the Mark Waid Legion, however, this is not among them - in fact, I think it's an interesting theme present in Legion of Super-Heroes history since the sixties, and is a compliment to Mark Waid's familiarity with DC history that he is able to pick up on it.
The whole "never trust anybody over 30" deal with the Legion of Super-Heroes is not some bizarre new interpretation that Mark Waid pulled out of nowhere, but is in fact entirely consistent with how the Legion was characterized back in the hip, counterculture sixties. Under Jim Shooter and Curt Swan, the Legion battled a nearly endless series of mind-controlled grownups, like in "The Legion Outlaws" where they were hip rebels against the system, whose PARENTS spied on them in their rooms when the square President of the UP, Kandro Boltax (Universo) declared them illegal. There was also their many battles with Mantis Morlo, the Chemical Conqueror, a grownup that "doesn't get it" who pollutes alien planets with chemicals from his factories, and at one point exposes the Legion to a "hallucination-creating gas."
Militarism and military societies, like the Dark Circle, Khunds and Dominators, were always unsympathetic, scheming and villainous, whereas non-technological and nature loving cultures like Orando's were always depicted sympathetically. Given a choice, I'd rather live on Jim Shooter's Orando than here: they had to settle for "supreme mastery of the arts" with "not a single building decorated with a work equal to that of Michaelangelo or Da Vinci." To show that Talok VII had come under the dominion of the Fatal Five, the planet was noticeably militarized.
It should be noted that with the exception of a few "traitors" like Nemesis Kid, no Jim Shooter and Curt Swan villain was a teenager; all their bad guys, from the Emerald Empress to Evilo were all adults. Universo was a Legion enemy, but his teenage son Rond Vidar was a Legion ally.
The Legion under Shooter was filled with the following themes:
1)
Youth and new ideas = good, Age and tradition = not as good. The ultraconservative Elders that refuse to allow the bombed out planet of Durla to be terraformed, for instance, are depicted as backward and Chameleon Boy, the least typical "Durlan," as a rebel.
2)
People that shout loudly about their own morality tend to be the evilest people of all. Given this theme, was it really a surprise that UP president Kandro Boltax turned out to be evil?
My problem with the Waid reboot is principally:
1) It's a Legion reboot. Did they REALLY do it so very wrong the first time? But I suppose this isn't Waid's fault, so this is the least of my objections.
2) This is my major objection: the characters are utterly unlikeable. Brainiac is an irritating know-it-all I want to slap. Previously, the Legion were the Mickey Mouse Club, the nicest and coolest bunch of kids you'd want to hang out with. Now they feel like the Nineties Mickey Mouse Club, where they're all kind of unfunny and irritating.
3) Mark Waid only focuses on the characters that he personally likes. Wow, Mark Waid enforcing his personal likes, dislikes and views onto characters? Shock of the century. But seriously, there ARE other Legionnaires other than Brainiac 5 and Cosmic Boy.
All you guys that love the Mark Waid FLASH to death will probably love this thing, so don't listen to what I say.
