Did Cary Bates call Kirby a "hack?"

[JulianPerez]

Under what circumstances did this happen, if it actually happened at all? What was Bates's rationalization?

Jeez, as great as some of those seventies guys were, they sure were egotistical.

[NotSuper]

I've never heard about this before. Any details?

[Super Monkey]

I never heard of such a thing.

[NotSuper]

Maybe this is just a rumor? There are quite a lot of those in comicdom.

[DoctorZero]

I never heard of this either.  Kirby lived on the West Coast at the time so did Bates and Kirby have any contact at all?

[alschroeder]

I never heard of this one, either.---Al

[Gangbuster]

Maybe Cary Bates just called Kirby "Jack."

Do you have a source?  :?

[Super Monkey]

Here is what I found from an interview from thsi site:

on doing comics the Marvel way...

MAGGIN: A story-telling artist can pull it off, though.  Jack Kirby was different.  He knew what to do with Stan Lee's story ideas.

BATES: Oh, yeah, it works if you have someone who knows what he's doing.

So I think this is nothing but a rumor, and I am about to close this thread and delete it unless someone can offer up some proof pretty fast. If no one can post any proof by Saturday, this thread is out of here.