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Author Topic: Is All-Star Superman the Superman of Earth-One?  (Read 8438 times)
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« on: September 21, 2006, 02:25:34 PM »

I was rereading All-Star Superman #4 last night, where Superman is affected by the Black Kryptonite from the Underverse. At first, Superman is unafraid of it because he has been immune to Green Kryptonite for some time. I didn't catch this the first time I read it...does this immunity come from Lex Luthor's actions in the first issue, or is he referring to what happened in Superman #233?



I guess I'll need to reread the first issue to make sure, but I don't remember Superman being unaffected by Kryptonite radiation in #1.
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2006, 03:26:27 PM »

No, I think this refers to the fact that he discovered that the solar radiation he was exposed to in All-Star 1 made him invulnerable to green K, as evidenced when a paranoid Lois blasted him with a Kryptonite gun in the Fortress of Solitude. It's part of All-Star's internal continuity.
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2006, 05:47:08 PM »

Ah...ok. I just haven't read those issues in a while.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2007, 01:17:35 AM »

I was always under the impression that All-Star Superman is an imaginary continuation, if not a re-imagining, of pre-Crisis Superman.....
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2007, 01:56:15 AM »

well it doesn't seem to totally match up with pre-crisis superman but then again Pre-crisis Superman very rarely agreed with itself either.
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2007, 03:05:38 PM »

Sort of a 52 question but here it goes, would you accept All-Star Superman as the New Earth-1 version?
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2007, 11:19:35 PM »

the death of Pa Kent was very different than what happened in the comicbook. though that could be chalked up to time traveling or something.

But back during the "good ol days" they used to make up continuity all the time anyways.
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2007, 04:49:37 PM »

While continuity was always in a state of flux, there were some key elements that once fixed remained fixed and didn't change between 1958 and 1986.

I was hoping that All-Star Superman could be considered a kind of 70s Superman continuity (if that Superman had continued), but the change of certain key elements--like Jonathan's death--now make this impossible.

Once the deaths of Ma and Pa were explored, they became established as set continuity. And a key element of that is that Ma died first, then Pa. With Clark making his tearful goodbyes to his Dad on his deathbed.

It's obvious when you read the origin stories in a series that the new origin writer was always looking back at the previous one. The old one is edited down, certain elements are left out, new elements are put in, but specific passages of the previous origin(s) are quoted exactly and often even rendered by the new artist with the same posing and camera angles as the previous.

There are a lot of things I can allow for in the All-Star version as just artistic license, but Jonathan Kent's death sets the series outside Earth One continuity.
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