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Kurt Busiek
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2006, 08:26:38 PM »


It looks like #150 was a partial reprint of #16 so I'm assuming that the term is used in a descriptive caption like, "And now a glance back at the origins of Cap's Kooky Quartet.." or something like that. 

Close.  I think it's newsman Sam Reuther, during a news report on the history of the team.

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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2006, 02:43:24 PM »

The nickname "Cap's Kooky Quartet" first officially showed up "in continuity" in AVENGERS #151 by Steve Englehart, Jim Shooter, and Gerry Conway, when there was a recap of Avengers history from start to finish. It was one of those "now we'll choose a new roster" type issues.

The nickname is far far older than that. But it should be noted that nowhere in the original tenure of the Kwartet, from #15 - #30 or so, are they called that!

The nickname comes from - as you might guess - wordsmith supreme and snake oil salesman Stan Lee, who referred to the team as "Cap's Kooky Kwartet" in lettercolumns in order to compare the Avengers to the Beatles "the Fab Four," all the way back during Stan's writing tenure on the book before Roy Thomas took over. This was the sixties and John, Paul and the rest were at the zenith of their prestige, and Stan the Man wanted to, presumably, tap into that counterculture "vibe." And to this day, they remain the only incarnation of the Avengers that I can seriously imagine smoking ganja and listening to Jimmy Hendrix over in Avengers Mansion (...except maybe Quicksilver, he seemed a little uptight).

My all time favorite "Cap's Quartet" "hippie" moment came when the mighty shield-slinger Captain-friggin-America himself sat down and said "What are you reading, Cap?"

"LORD OF THE RINGS! I dig FAR-OUT fantasy!"

By the way, this was years and years before Englehart had Captain America discover America on motorcycle EASY RIDER-style. So I guess the spirit of the sixties was always kind of in that guy.

Speaking of Roy Thomas and LORD OF THE RINGS, I'd love to write a Roy Thomas Drinking Game. "Take a shot every time there's a reference to LORD OF THE RINGS." Man, Roy must really love Tolkien. The biggest one I can think of was the original Black Knight's horse (and later, the Valkyrie's) "Aragorn."

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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2006, 05:08:49 AM »

Julian and Kurt, thanks for your great memories and for digging around.

Julian, any issue # for Stan's first usage in a lettercol? 

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