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« Reply #48 on: February 21, 2007, 12:12:41 AM »

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"Grant Morrison actually has talent."

I guess that's explains All-Star Superman. It also explains why I always take your opinions with a massive grain of salt.

BTW, there is a BIG difference between me refusing to BUY his comics and me not reading them, I have read enough to be able to know not to read anymore and that it is something I rather not support with my money.

If he is the best thing to happen to DC then all hope is lost.

The only thing he has going for himself is that he sells a lot of copies (for today's standards anyway).

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« Reply #49 on: February 21, 2007, 01:46:06 AM »

The Krypton Companion book from TwoMorrows made clear that even in the Bronze Age that were writers who really understood and loved Superman, like Maggin and Bates, and writers who wanted to do a Marvel version, like Gerry Conwey, Martin Pasko and Jim Shooter.

Mark Waid and Grant Morrison are the new Elliot S! Maggin. Kurt Busiek is heir of Bates.

That leaves Johns as one of the Marvel guys...
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« Reply #50 on: February 21, 2007, 01:31:23 PM »

Well, I think that pretty much sums it up. 

A scan of Julian's old posts will reveal he pretty much prefers a "Marvel" take on Superman, and in fact believes that the migration of Marvel writers to DC in the 70s is the only thing that saved the company from the doldrums of the Silver Age.

I, on the other hand, believe pretty much the opposite.  But that's what makes horse races.
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« Reply #51 on: February 21, 2007, 04:34:39 PM »

That leaves Johns as one of the Marvel guys...

I'm not sure any of the Marvel guys would gore the characters out the way Johns does.
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« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2007, 05:01:21 PM »

I agree, I think this analogy is doing a disservice to Marvel.

I'd say he's one of the E.C. guys.

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« Reply #53 on: February 21, 2007, 05:10:39 PM »

I wonder.  Have you guys seen that "Marvel Zombies" trash?

Hard to imagine a gorier or more disrespectful use of one's characters than that.

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« Reply #54 on: February 21, 2007, 05:29:03 PM »

I've read the first issue of Marvel Zombies. Al least it's intended to be trash.

The miniseries Spider-Man: Reign, the atepted Dark Knight Returns of Marvel Comics, on the other hand...
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« Reply #55 on: February 21, 2007, 05:59:45 PM »

I wonder.  Have you guys seen that "Marvel Zombies" trash?

Hard to imagine a gorier or more disrespectful use of one's characters than that.

The actual analogy was

... there were writers who really understood and loved Superman, like Maggin and Bates, and writers who wanted to do a Marvel version, like Gerry Conwey, Martin Pasko and Jim Shooter.

Mark Waid and Grant Morrison are the new Elliot S! Maggin. Kurt Busiek is heir of Bates.

That leaves Johns as one of the Marvel guys...

I was talking about the traditional Marvel guys mentioned above: Conway, Pasko, and Shooter.

In that sense, I think the analogy is doing a disservice to Marvel.  Johns is nothing like any of them.
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