I think that the thing about the Morrison JLA is a lot simpler than what is being discussed here. The League was the big heroes. The big heroes were the best in all aspects.
HAHAHAHAHAHA you mean like Aquaman and John Jones, Manhunter from Mars?
There was sense of wonder and mad ideas.
I didn't detect any wild ideas. They visit Wonderworld and it's just another superhero lair with a bottled city and a brain?
Think about what someone like Neil Gaiman would do with the idea that angels...are REAL. What a mindblowing idea. But what does Morrison do? Have Superman punch a guy with eyes on his chest while the rest catch a blimp. That's a failure of the imagination there. Lame, lame, lame!
And the overwhelming majority of his stories are either directly lifted or reminiscent of other stories. Superheroes vs. the Military? Yawn. Superheroes in a dystopian future where villains ruled? Double yawn. Alien invasion? The guy even NAMED his stories after B-Movies.
Exactly, and in Morrison/Waid's JLA, the heroes actually DID something as opposed to looking at a bunch of photographs for 4 issues.
I think you missed the point. The JLA founders were talking about who was going to be in the JLA. It was tense, and it had a few twists in it: for instance, the idea Batman wasn't going to be included. Also, I doubt they devoted more than three or four pages to this story per comic. The rest is good stuff like Red Arrow vs. thousands of Red Tornadoes and Solomon Grundy with superintelligence.
It's really been embarassing how Morrison's been utterly outdone; first by Busiek with his astonishing JLA arc, and now by the tense Brad Meltzer.
Errr...so in order to be follow the Silver Age, writers should "channel" those elements you like, modify them to fit how you think they should play out in the modern era - and this is an objective argument?
Yeah, it is supposed to be an objective argument, at least to the extent that a supported opinion with clear criteria
can be objective.
Here, let me put what I'm saying another way:
I absolutely think they did the right thing in updating MIAMI VICE to modern times in the recent movie. Because MIAMI VICE is not, and never was, about the pink and pastel uniforms, or about the loafers without socks.
MIAMI VICE was a tough, cool undercover cop show about a glamorous, violent and dangerous lifestyle, and that's exactly what Mike Mann did on screen. They were true to the "cool action" spirit of the show, even though it didn't superficially look like what we think of as MIAMI VICE.
But imagine what a horrible movie would have resulted if, instead of emphasizing the glamour and grit, they made the movie about eighties nostalgia and horrible fashoin disasters and Rico and Crockett showed up to the scene of the crime driving a D'Elorian while listing to Falco and Men Without Hats.
If it had been a comedy/parody, that would have been one thing...but what if Michael Mann played it "straight" and REALLY, sincerely thought that all that detritus was what made MIAMI VICE cool - the bad fashoin and eighties nostalgia?
THAT is why I am stone-cold unimpressed by Supermonkey's argument that "hey, ASS's in the Spirit of Silver Age Superman because look! Why...there are Flash Gordon ray guns and fins on things!"
No.
That doesn't mean anything.
In fact, all that is sign of being UNTRUE to the spirit of Superman. It's like saying, "hey, screw all those Silver Age Legion of Super-Heroes stories where they fought overwhelming enemies and cosmic odds and people died. What LOSH is all about, what should be duplicated today, are those stories where Jimmy Olsen as Elastic Lad helped the Legion through his clumsiness!"
(I hope I never live to see Grant on LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES. I'd collapse of a gigantic hate-induced heart-attack. That's exactly what he'd do, you know. For the love of all that is holy, people, the guy brought back friggin' BAT-MITE!)
That's how I feel when I read a story where Lois temporarily gains powers as a birthday present from Superman. The very fact it is being done shows the writer enjoys Superman on the level of "ironic appreciation," because if you appreciate something ironically, that means you're not capable of distinguishing between strengths and weaknesses.
Then again, there are those that feel that Superman isn't supposed to be a great adventure and action character...but a guy whose stories ought to be gimmicky tales where Big Blue battles with Sampson and Atlas over the hand of Lois, and where Jimmy transforms into weird things regularly.
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