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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2007, 04:30:50 AM »

And as adults, it is fun for us to speculate on these matters.  Surely, we also are part of "the grand scheme of things!"  Maggin taught us that in Miracle Monday!

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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2007, 12:01:09 PM »


Really, I have said many times before, that the old school writers didn't care if this stuff actually make any real sense in the grand scheme of things, only that it was fun for kids to read.


Yeah, I doubt Binder, Hamilton, Siegel et al had any idea this would be discussed and debated some forty plus years after publication.

And what's more fun than super dogs and chimps? A Super cat and a super horse. (Im not getting into Biron/Comet/ Bronco Bill's weirdness love "triangle" with Supergirl...) 
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2007, 04:11:39 PM »

It would be interesting to look at the fossil record for Krypton. One of my favorite elements of L. Sprague de Camp's "Viagens" books is that his Krishnans have a Neanderthal or Homo erectus sub-race that survived: as scattered forest-dwelling tailed people. I can TOTALLY see something like that being a "World of Krypton" backup.

Also, it's not 100% sure that Kryptonians evolved on their planet; even discounting Bates's story, in LEGION there's some amusing debate whether Krypton or Daxam is the colony.
There's the Zelkot and Volkir stuff in DC Comics Presents #1/#2.

Would you be more inclined to believe in a God if your race clearly came in from somewhere else and hadn't clearly evolved with the other species on the planet? 

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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2007, 04:35:39 PM »

It would be interesting to look at the fossil record for Krypton. One of my favorite elements of L. Sprague de Camp's "Viagens" books is that his Krishnans have a Neanderthal or Homo erectus sub-race that survived: as scattered forest-dwelling tailed people. I can TOTALLY see something like that being a "World of Krypton" backup.

Also, it's not 100% sure that Kryptonians evolved on their planet; even discounting Bates's story, in LEGION there's some amusing debate whether Krypton or Daxam is the colony.
There's the Zelkot and Volkir stuff in DC Comics Presents #1/#2.

Would you be more inclined to believe in a God if your race clearly came in from somewhere else and hadn't clearly evolved with the other species on the planet? 

That doesn't seem to stop people on this Earth.

Anyway, it is really hard to explain why they look so much like humans and for that matter all those others races in the Legion do as well, storyline wise anyway.

In real life, the reason was of course is it was done for marketing reasons. Little boys and girls could relate more to aliens that looked like them rather that some odd looking creature. This is why only alien villains look like monsters. Of course they are some rather disturbing racial subtexts to this "those who look different than us are evil" mentality. This was the same reason why Japanese people in WW2 era comics look like vampires and grotesque sub-humans.

Martian Manhunter was the 1st one to change all of this.

Star Wars made it cool to have Aliens who look like Aliens who were good guys.



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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2007, 10:19:55 AM »

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Yeah, I doubt Binder, Hamilton, Siegel et al had any idea this would be discussed and debated some forty plus years after publication.

I don't know if they actually THOUGHT that or not, but they did put a lot of care into their work...usually. And E. Nelson Bridwell was certainly paying attention.

Incidentally, do the thought-hounds of Kandor remind anybody else of Otto Orion's thought-tracker hounds? Chameleon Boy disguised himself as one, to his chagrin. Both had antennae, both were telepathic, both were white. I suspect its the same creature.

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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2007, 01:56:46 PM »

Not exactly proof of evolution, but there was a stone age on Krypton:

http://superman.nu/wiki/index.php/Super_Caveman

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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2007, 03:57:56 PM »

To get back on topic, the first animal in space was a dog -- the Russian mutt "Laika". Laika was lost.  Then the US sent up "Ham" - a chimp. (Were they fans of Doc Savage?)
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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2007, 02:33:53 AM »

I think HAM was an acronym for something, like 2001's HAL.  Very unimaginative scientists.



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