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« on: June 18, 2011, 08:58:10 AM »

Yeah....the movie stunk.

The acting was fine. The script and pacing were the major problems.

The story had nearly all of the plot points from Johns' Secret Origins. It simply executed them very badly. There are simply too many blasted subplots and character histories intertwined with the director choosing to give the wrong ones precedence over the others.

Going into spoiler territory now:

Example, Hal's training on Oa is only 15 minutes long vs the eternity spent on the romantic subplot with Carol Ferris.

Another one, Hector Hammond's solo buildup to villain is also long, there is a past relationship between Hal, Carol, and Hector and their parents, but that little factoid doesn't come about until well into the film and is only given one throwaway line at a party. That bit would give the fight between Hammond and Hal a large amount of emotional weight to it. Of course, we don't really get an epic fight either. It's a brief scuffle and then the threat they spend a large time building up gets it's soul sucked up by Parallex.

The Parallex fight doesn't pass the smell test either. It was defeated way too easily by our main hero. Who, did I mention, had a whole 15 minutes of training (well, more getting his rear end handed to him by Kilowogg and Sinestro) and Parallex had snuffed out atleast 7-8 of the Corps best Lanterns. Huh?

This movie was supposed to be DC's answer to Iron Man. Warner Brother's would have done well to emulate that movie by cutting out a lot of the romance and focusing on building Jordan's character along with some great action sequences. But, no, they went and made something that should have been relegated to the CW as a television pilot.
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2011, 01:29:10 PM »

I thought it was a good solid popcorn movie. There were things I would change, sure, but everybody's a critic (or a screenplay writer it seems).

I don't regard the Hal/Carol relationship as a subplot. Many classic GL stories were about Hal and Carol. And I think for a general audience this is something that works well. It's a relief from all the cosmic science fiction stuff.

I felt that my $17.50 was well spent.

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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2011, 11:41:53 PM »

liked the film
ya probably didn't need parallax

My problem that, for 300 million dollars the film still looked kinda cheap in parts
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2011, 01:19:18 PM »

Hehe after remembering some of nightwing's old superhero comments from years past this movie actually did well for embracing the concept of the superhero without taking itself too seriously

sure there's PIS and CIS (google for those unacquainted) but come to think of it comic books by the large rely on PIS and CIS to tell a story.

Too bad playing it like a straight-up Superhero movie bores the hell out of the more jaded "sophisticated" viewers.

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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 03:53:45 AM »

It just seemd like a reboot of a couple of other movies. Predictable.

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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2012, 03:06:12 AM »

Finally noticed Elliot's new website.  I never saw the GL film, but his take on it is making me rethink that decision:

Quote from: Elliot S! Maggin
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How to do mythology

Elliot S! Maggin
June 19 2011

I love Green Lantern. Always have. He was the reason I convinced my dad to give me a dramatic boost in allowance in the early Sixties.

I was getting a quarter a week, which was actually in line with the purchasing power of most of my friends – at least the ones who didn’t live on the upward-mobile South Merrick landfill. Around 1960 Julie Schwartz, a senior editor at DC Comics whom I wouldn’t actually come to know for another ten years, started trying out new superhero characters every six months in a magazine called Showcase and then launching most of them off in their own comics. So when I was about eleven comics went from a dime to twelve cents an issue and new titles I just had to follow were coming out with predictable – but nonetheless alarming – reliability. The Green Lantern book by John Broome and Gil Kane was just so damned good I had to do something drastic, so I put together a spreadsheet to illustrate my predicament for Dad. I needed a nickel more a week just to account for the new cover price, and a regular boost every six months (retroactive to the previous half-year) to cover the new stuff from Julie. I needed a bump to forty cents right away, I showed, and my advancing years justified the inflationary spiral to ensue. Dad was not visibly impressed, but he and Mom conferred and a few days later he announced that I would now have to be responsible for several expenses for which they had heretofore paid. To accommodate for this my weekly allowance would now be three dollars. No matter that I now had to cover my own lunches; I had my Green Lantern.

There were many other reasons I loved Green Lantern, most of which are on display in the just-released Warner Bros film of that name. The critics uniformly seem to hate it. They have their heads up their asses. Especially Peter Travers in Rolling Stone who ought to know better. Here’s why:

Green Lantern the film launches a visual and figurative vocabulary – a set of assumptions about the viability of the popular consciousness – that we haven’t seen updated in this medium since Star Wars. The intelligence of the film is on display mostly in what the filmmakers choose to leave out. There have been wormholes, for example, in earlier movies, but they’ve always been accompanied by lengthy digressions where some learned Sagan clone explains in excruciating detail what they are and how they work. Sometimes there are even lame visual aids: toilet paper tubes and fiber optic reading lights and such. By contrast, somewhere toward the top of the second act, Ryan Reynolds in a holographic Green Lantern body suit launches into the maw of one somewhere off the northern edge of the solar system and pops out in the neighborhood of the ancient planet Oa at the geographic midpoint of the Universe. No problem; no further explanation necessary; visually obvious.

The film is full of such shorthanded leaps, all the better to fit a corker of a story. “Too much information,” one movie reviewer cries, drooling with the assumption that what he’s too intellectually lazy to integrate is beyond the grasp of an audience better acquainted with the shared experiences of twenty-first century collective memory than he.

There’s an astonishing absence of cultural sophistication among our supposed cultural gatekeepers these days. This lapse is so prevalent that reportedly the marketing suits at Warner Bros are already casting around for someone to take the fall for their huge but timorous investment in this superb product of American heroic fantasy. Someone somewhere in the arcane process that goes into making a big Hollywood movie understands the protocols of traditional mythology and, what’s more, whoever among the Warner geeks knows this stuff got to make some major creative decisions that kept this presentation consistent not only with its source material but with the classical coding that made it great.

Only one of the creatives who built and grew the Green Lantern character managed to get himself credited for anything in the film titles. Good going, pal, but here are some names that belong up there too: Mart Nodell, my buddy Gil Kane, John Broome, Julius Schwartz, Alfred Bester (who in a fit of chemical-enhanced invention wrote that oath in 1941), Dennis O’Neil, Neal Adams (happy birthday) and an Oscar-style list of people without whom we would never have had this common treasure.

To the suits at WB: As I write this the thing hasn’t even finished its opening weekend and already you’re circling the wagons like a bunch of wanna-be cowboys scared of a few coyote howls. You should know better but, really, we don’t expect you to.

"The bottom line involves choices.  Neither gods nor humans have ever stood calmly in a minefield forever.  Good or evil, they are bound to choose.  And when they do, you will see the truth of all that motivates us.  As a thinking being, you have the obligation to choose.  If the fate of all mankind were in your hands, what would your decision be?  As a writer and an artist, I've drawn my answer."   - Jack Kirby
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